Re: [Frameworks] Please stop responding WITH the attachment. It's overloading my computer.

From: Julian Ross <>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:29:00 +0000

Hello everyone,

It seems my contribution to the list has provoked some anger and discussion.

Apologies for the large file that I attached to the previous e-mail. I realise the file was a bit larger than necessary (due to the flyer-image). I sent it amidst a panic-frenzy moment when I began to worry about attendance/prints/etc.
At least, I hope some of you found the content interesting.

The screening tonight was well-attended and it seemed like people enjoyed the films. For those of you who attended, thanks for coming and I hope you enjoyed the programme.

You know what clogged up my inbox? All the replies about an attachment. I thought this mailing list was for filmmakers/audiences/programmers who enjoy watching experimental films. Most of the mail I've receive the past few months through this list has been boring discussions on facebook and e-mail attachments.

Oh well, I'll try and keep reading.


Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:53:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Please stop responding WITH the attachment. It's overloading my computer.

you have called people names on frameworks so...
i have no idea what your humane/ethical/moral make up is but i do not rememeber doing that
and i am not interested in such activity
your just proving my original point over and over here and not getting it as usual

and yes i said i was not surprised that you wouldn't get it
you never do and won't

a friend of mine gets my emails and doesn't understand them EVER
it's just like that

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On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Fred Camper <> wrote:

Quoting Cari Machet <>:

> he is at yale from what i could understand


You need to QUIT making ad hominem comments and assumptions about

individual posters. As Ron Gregg, who is also "at Yale," pointed out,

being "at Yale" doesn't tell anyone anything about his financial


> i don't like imposing attitudes

As was yours

> i was being sardonic

> i don't particularly enjoy telling others what they should be doing

And do you think the poster, and most of the rest of us, "got it" that

you weren't actually "imposing" on him the idea that he should buy a

new computer?

> nor do i enjoy dictatorships

You apparently don't know what a dictatorship is if you think it

amounts to a few expressions of opinion on FrameWorks.

> that was my point

> it is perfectly understandable that you two didn't get it

> i am not surprised

An ad hominem attack. You have posted similar attacks more than once

before. It is not a "dictatorship" to tell people to argue positions

on an email list dedicated to discussing avant-garde film, rather than

posting personal attacks. I don't see that the statement of

Frameworks' purpose includes personal attacks.

Fred Camper



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