Re: 35mm projection options

From: Roger Beebe (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jun 14 2009 - 15:01:21 PDT

Well, about the ease of video aspect ratios, I've seen plenty of
strange things happening as people switch to 16:9. People seem scared
of "pillarboxing," so you'll see lots of oddly stretched 4:3 videos.
It seems like many artists haven't gotten their labeling strategies
down, because I've noticed lots of festivals trying to change the
aspect ratios quickly as a new video begins. With letterboxed 1.85,
2.35, anamorphic 16:9, letterboxed 16:9, good old fashioned 4:3, etc.,
I'm not sure that video is exactly trouble-free. Of course, the fix
for video is often just pressing a few buttons or searching through
some menus, and that's not as difficult as ordering new plates, filing
them down, &c.

2 cents,

On Jun 14, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Myron Ort wrote:

> That is discouraging news. I was hoping that "1:33 full" was not that
> uncommon. This is the format which A) has a soundtrack area, and B)
> uses the frame all the way to the h/v edges (eg. not cropped down).
> Do I have my nomenclature correct by calling this "1:33 full"?
> I was hoping to be able to show it as a film. But it does emphasize
> the point to me that digital projection avoids all this. Once
> transferred to digital, these aspect ratio issues seem so much easier
> to deal with.
> Myron
> On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Ed Inman wrote:
>> Only a few specialty cinemas will likely be set up for anything
>> other than 1.85 flat or 2.35 scope, although most cinema equipment
>> dealers can easily enough order the necessary additional aperture
>> plates for whatever projector is being used.
>> There is also no shortage of older used lenses sitting around in
>> warehouses for $50 or $100 a pop, although new ones can cost
>> thousands of dollars.
>> If you know the exact footage from the projector to the screen
>> there is a lens calculator downloadable at that will
>> guide you as to what length lenses are needed for various formats.
>> Ed
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Myron Ort <email suppressed>
>>> Sent: Jun 14, 2009 2:49 PM
>>> To: email suppressed
>>> Subject: Re: 35mm projection options
>>> Do venues which show 35mm film usually have all the gate options?
>>> Say, If I have a print which is "1:33 full" (with soundtrack), can I
>>> assume venues which show 35mm can accommodate? Say I have a film
>>> which is "Super 35mm raw" that is to say "Ye Olde Edison silent
>>> format" ?
>>> Seems like a big can of worms to me at this point. Maybe I am making
>>> this more complicated than it is.
>>> (much of my thinking here is due to economics, that is, avoiding
>>> expensive optical reformatting lab work)
>>> What 35mm format is "Garden of Earthly Delights", for example.
>>> Myron Ort
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