Re: 35mm projection options

From: Myron Ort (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jun 14 2009 - 15:20:32 PDT


Guess I will do both, and hope there will be some opportunities to
find a venue which can show film, and second best the digital. The
film in mind is already finished and it is in this "1:33 full". I
will get it telecine transferred in August. Later look into film
printing.

On Jun 14, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Roger Beebe wrote:

> Well, about the ease of video aspect ratios, I've seen plenty of
> strange things happening as people switch to 16:9. People seem
> scared of "pillarboxing," so you'll see lots of oddly stretched 4:3
> videos. It seems like many artists haven't gotten their labeling
> strategies down, because I've noticed lots of festivals trying to
> change the aspect ratios quickly as a new video begins. With
> letterboxed 1.85, 2.35, anamorphic 16:9, letterboxed 16:9, good old
> fashioned 4:3, etc., I'm not sure that video is exactly trouble-
> free. Of course, the fix for video is often just pressing a few
> buttons or searching through some menus, and that's not as
> difficult as ordering new plates, filing them down, &c.
>
> 2 cents,
> R.
>
> On Jun 14, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
>> That is discouraging news. I was hoping that "1:33 full" was not that
>> uncommon. This is the format which A) has a soundtrack area, and B)
>> uses the frame all the way to the h/v edges (eg. not cropped down).
>> Do I have my nomenclature correct by calling this "1:33 full"?
>> I was hoping to be able to show it as a film. But it does emphasize
>> the point to me that digital projection avoids all this. Once
>> transferred to digital, these aspect ratio issues seem so much easier
>> to deal with.
>>
>> Myron
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Ed Inman wrote:
>>
>>> Only a few specialty cinemas will likely be set up for anything
>>> other than 1.85 flat or 2.35 scope, although most cinema equipment
>>> dealers can easily enough order the necessary additional aperture
>>> plates for whatever projector is being used.
>>> There is also no shortage of older used lenses sitting around in
>>> warehouses for $50 or $100 a pop, although new ones can cost
>>> thousands of dollars.
>>> If you know the exact footage from the projector to the screen
>>> there is a lens calculator downloadable at film-tech.com that will
>>> guide you as to what length lenses are needed for various formats.
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Myron Ort <email suppressed>
>>>> Sent: Jun 14, 2009 2:49 PM
>>>> To: email suppressed
>>>> Subject: Re: 35mm projection options
>>>>
>>>> Do venues which show 35mm film usually have all the gate options?
>>>>
>>>> Say, If I have a print which is "1:33 full" (with soundtrack),
>>>> can I
>>>> assume venues which show 35mm can accommodate? Say I have a film
>>>> which is "Super 35mm raw" that is to say "Ye Olde Edison silent
>>>> format" ?
>>>> Seems like a big can of worms to me at this point. Maybe I am
>>>> making
>>>> this more complicated than it is.
>>>>
>>>> (much of my thinking here is due to economics, that is, avoiding
>>>> expensive optical reformatting lab work)
>>>>
>>>> What 35mm format is "Garden of Earthly Delights", for example.
>>>>
>>>> Myron Ort
>>>>
>>>>
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