Re: RULES was Re: FramWorks, Obama, Satantango, politics, etc.

From: James Cole (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Sep 08 2008 - 05:41:29 PDT

"But surely 'rules' 'from above' are antithetical to experimental film."
Can I make a post about the Red Sox, then? Dustin Pedroia is really
swinging a big stick as of late.

I guess I don't really see how there can be any debate about whether or not
this is germane to the list. Does anyone here think Obama knows who Joyce
Wieland is?

I signed up for a list on the discussion of experimental film. In the last
few months, I've gotten that thing about joining some social networking
site, something asking me to send money to Nigeria, and now political
propaganda. Does any of this really wall under the category of
"subversive," Jack? I mean, hell, I wouldn't want to receive emails about
the new Coen Brothers movie, and I certainly didn't give out my email so I
could be subject to campaign material. Certainly I don't think any of the
people who "broke" the rules should be kicked off the list or put in jail or
anything (that would indeed be "absurd"); but a whole mess of people gave
out their private email addresses so they could receive discussion about
experimental film, not so they could get information about Democrats,
Republicans, Lyndon Larouche, etc. It would be nice if people were
respectful of that.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Jack Sargeant <email suppressed> wrote:

> Rules?
> If we are going to follow rules (absurd) then surely "subversive" would
> cover at least some political statements.
> But surely 'rules' 'from above' are antithetical to experimental film.
> Jack
> > There are supposed to be rules about this list -
> >
> >
> > Frameworks is "an international forum on experimental film, avant-garde
> > film, film as art, film as film, or film as visual poetry; film's
> > expressive qualities, aside from or in addition to its storytelling
> > capacity. Any genre of experimental film, such as film diary, found
> > footage, abstract, flicker, lyric, subversive, expanded, etc., can be
> > discussed, as well as those films which fall into the cracks between the
> > genres, or those not covered by other lists.
> >
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.

For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.