Re: [Frameworks] this guy's youtube channel/ a different attitude towards time and attentiveness

From: Richard Sylvarnes <>
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:56:11 -0400

Welcome to the present. How many people have the chance or ability to
hear music or watch a film optimally? What is that? Even in the best
theater someone will cough. I have the Brakhage sets and they're


On Jul 16, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Myron Ort wrote:

> Remind me again the purpose of putting out the Brakhage DVD sets?
> Watching those on a tv screen it seems to me is not entirely
> different than watching a streaming video full-screen on a computer
> screen (in a darkened room with distractions eliminated).
> I think there are many who get/got something from those sets and to
> me the effectiveness of those sets opened the door.
> No one is saying that it is a "substitute" for watching it in a movie
> theater any more than listening to the Art Of The Fugue on a stereo
> is a substitute for a live performance.
> Myron Ort
> On Jul 16, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Fred Camper wrote:
>> Quoting gregg biermann <>:
>>> Fred,
>>> I agree. If you think about the metaphor of Windows itself -- the
>>> implication is that your attention is, practically by default, split
>>> between multiple processes and events happening simultaneously on
>>> screen....
>> And recent studies have shown that when people "multi-task," they
>> don't do the separate tasks very well.
>> I don't want to preclude the idea that divided and interrupted
>> attention might be interesting, and might lead to interesting art. My
>> point is that it makes the older type of attention, the type required
>> for say Bach's "The Art of the Fugue" or a great older poem or novel,
>> of "The Art of Vision," less likely. Viewing art alone and in
>> silence,
>> and also with the inner solitude of a mind aware of the finest
>> details
>> of the experience and their multiple shades and suggestions and
>> implications, that's something really important to me. And I think
>> it's the best way to view the films of Markopoulos, Brakhage, Breer,
>> Frampton, Gehr, and so many others...
>> Fred Camper
>> Chicago
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