Re: [Frameworks] Facebook

From: What <>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:35:34 -0700

Regardless of whatever other marketing venues there are, I hope this list continues. Yes, listserves may be old school, but they are searchable, which is really handy.

I use Facebook daily for friend updates, but don't find it's search interface to be that effective.


On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Fred Camper <> wrote:

> If you use a robust email program, like, say, Thunderbird, and take a
> few minutes to learn how to use it, navigating FrameWorks threads is
> no problem. Furthermore, there *is* a Web site with all of them that
> can be read by thread or by date.
> WHAT is the problem??? I hate the idea that plain text emails are
> "old" technology and Facebook is more "up to date." Yikes. The
> evolution of the Internet has been, to put it bluntly, towards
> assuming that the user is stupider and stupider, providing simpler and
> simpler interfaces while asking the user to give up more and more
> control of the presentation and use of her or his work, and Facebook
> is a prime example of this. If you want to put something on the Web,
> you can learn a little html and/or get some Web page software, buy
> your own domain name, and start your own site, and be the sole owner
> of your work without having to contribute to the bottom line of
> Facebook or whatever, and without having ads next to your work, unless
> you choose to have ads. This is what I did eleven years ago (
> ) Doing this makes it unnecessary to use
> Facebook much.
> WHY are we having so much discussion about Facebook, when Pip has said
> nothing about it? Well, I'm not helping the situation, I admit...
> Anyone can start a Facebook page and post the link to this list. If
> many FrameWorks denizens want to share their videos on Facebook, also
> allowing Facebook unlimited use of them, then one of them should start
> a Facebook page or group or whatever and post the link here. I have no
> objection to that, of course. The Web should be about doing what you
> want. But even some of us who are Facebook members, as I am, want as
> little to do with Facebook as possible.
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
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