Re: [Frameworks] Drama films and the Avant-Garde

From: gregg biermann (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Jan 25 2011 - 07:49:32 PST


I seem to remember Maya Deren pointing this out but I can't remember in
what essay. Anyone know?

On 1/25/2011 9:53 AM, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> Indeed. This is pretty much the only time you see experimental
> techniques employed in most mainstream cinema: to depict 'altered
> states' such as psychosis etc. It's quite sad really.
>
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> *From:* "Beebe,Roger W" <email suppressed>
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
> *Sent:* Tue, 25 January, 2011 14:48:43
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Drama films and the Avant-Garde
>
> The final scene of Irma Vep has lots of etching and other direct
> animation techniques. (It's interesting/problematic, because the
> avant-garde section is figured as the product of a deranged genius in
> the context of a narrative film that's otherwise formally much more
> conservative.)
>
> ...
> Roger
>
> On Jan 25, 2011, at 5:17 AM, alrees wrote:
>
> > Dear Frameworkers,
> >
> > Can anyone suggest any drama/fiction/narrative films, from the last ten
> > years or so, that include 'avant-garde' sequences, references,
> tricks and
> > tropes? I'm looking for examples from both mainstream and arthouse
> > contemporary cinema movies that have avant-garde devices of any kind -
> > flicker, camerawork, blur, rapid cuts, flare-out, anything like
> that. All
> > suggestions will be gratefully received!
> >
> > Al Rees
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