From: Pip Chodorov (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Sep 04 2010 - 10:48:02 PDT
Yes, the Shower was shown a few years ago at the Pompidou Center.
Projecting on mist was Anthony McCall; Stan Vanderbeek projected on
steam. In both cases the audience was invited to look through the
tunnel of light towards the projector.
Every summer in Marseille until a few years ago, XHX (Gilles
Royannais) would project experimental films in the calanques (little
coves), hanging a screen just over the sea surface and projecting
from the beach, choosing films that work well when reflected, or that
Coloribus (Christophe Goulard) projects 35mm and 16mm and glass tubs
of water and chemicals from overhead projectors, but he has only done
a few performances over the last couple of years.
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At 9:45 -0400 4/09/10, Andy Ditzler wrote:
>Robert Whitman also did a piece called Shower (1965), described by
>Jonas Mekas in his June 3, 1965 Village Voice column which was
>subsequently republished in his book Movie Journal. A woman showers
>inside a shower box, while a color film of her taking a shower is
>projected onto the box (which is made of clear plastic, so water
>runs down the projection surface).
>I remember reading about someone projecting through mist, but can't
>remember the reference. Was it Ken Jacobs? Stan Vanderbeek?
>On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 5:19 AM, jennifer cadger
><<mailto:email suppressed> wrote:
>I am currently a student at University of Central Lancashire (Uclan)
>where I am doing a BA (Hons) Fine Art. Last term my studio work led
>me into the realm of Expanded Cinema and for my finial submission I
>did an expanded cinema installation involving 3 experimental films
>and 3 overhead projectors each of which had moving images. On one of
>the projectors I had a clear plastic tub which had in it a washing
>machine glass bowl in which I had water, a water pump and the clear
>waterproof casing from a 35mm camera that created a moving image.
>Which was great, as an experiment, however totally unsuitable for
>I am posting to frameworks for help with researching my dissertation.
>I have chosen the working title of;
>"Exploration of water as a physical active component within Expanded Cinema"
>I have been inspired by;
>Chris Meigh-Andrews lecture series at Uclan
>John Wood and Paul Harrison; Harry Houdini (there's no escape that I
>can see) 1994
>Bradley Eros published article "There will be projections in all
>dimensions" where he describes a projection from the New York
>Underground film festival 2000. Where an 8mm projector and a glass
>of whiskey was used to create "cinema but not film?" (What can I say
>Zoe Redmans; She, Her, I. Which I saw recently at Street Level
>Photoworks in Glasgow
>Further research had uncovered;
>Robert Whitman; Two holes of water two (1966)
>Current Artists; Lenka Novakova and Michael Brown
>I was also intrigued by the recent listing for;
>Sites for seeing: Out of the Cineplex and into the Marshlands
>curated by Gerda Cammaer with whom I have already corresponded.
>I am aware that there is a lot of artist who have worked with
>film/video etc where water has been an integral part of the
>projected image/installation i.e.; Chris Meigh-Andrews; Eau
>However I am looking for examples of artists work where the water is
>physically present (preferably moving) in the gallery space or like
>"Sites for seeing: Out of the Cineplex and into the Marshlands"
>where the projection has been taken out of the gallery space and
>into a watery environment.
>This is my first post and I have been watching frameworks since my
>trip to "no.w.here" earlier on this year, so I am sure that I will
>(hopefully) spark some discussion!
>"Let the deluge begin!" (Sorry couldn't help myself!)
>Hence, I would appreciate your help in this research and would ask
>that if you have detailed information like Journal article, artist,
>date, book title and page number or artist's web site etc. That
>would be great! As searching JSTOR or Google for Expanded Cinema and
>water doesn't get you very far! Also if you are aware of any up and
>coming exhibitions in the UK that would be relevant that would be
>I would also ask Permission from the administrator of frameworks to
>cite any discussions that occur in relation to this post.
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