Re: RULES was Re: FramWorks, Obama, Satantango, politics, etc.

From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Sep 08 2008 - 11:34:39 PDT

you can make a post about green sox if you want as far as i am concerned
there is a reason in the constitution of the united states
written oh in the 1700's
and amended to include the bill of rights later
was inclusive of freedom of speech
wonder why those crazy white guys would give a crap about that?
the ones in power now seem to understand just how crazy they were

believe it or not
(as there are way too many boring - academic - repetitively rehashing old
crap films in the supposed experimental film world)
experimental film is an inclusive genre of art/film

if you don't like the posts in a given subject use your civil rights to not
read them

control freakism is boring and lifeless
unfortunately some people are interested in such things


On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:41 AM, James Cole <email suppressed> wrote:

> "But surely 'rules' 'from above' are antithetical to experimental film."
> Can I make a post about the Red Sox, then? Dustin Pedroia is really
> swinging a big stick as of late.
> I guess I don't really see how there can be any debate about whether or not
> this is germane to the list. Does anyone here think Obama knows who Joyce
> Wieland is?
> I signed up for a list on the discussion of experimental film. In the last
> few months, I've gotten that thing about joining some social networking
> site, something asking me to send money to Nigeria, and now political
> propaganda. Does any of this really wall under the category of
> "subversive," Jack? I mean, hell, I wouldn't want to receive emails about
> the new Coen Brothers movie, and I certainly didn't give out my email so I
> could be subject to campaign material. Certainly I don't think any of the
> people who "broke" the rules should be kicked off the list or put in jail or
> anything (that would indeed be "absurd"); but a whole mess of people gave
> out their private email addresses so they could receive discussion about
> experimental film, not so they could get information about Democrats,
> Republicans, Lyndon Larouche, etc. It would be nice if people were
> respectful of that.
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Jack Sargeant <email suppressed> wrote:
>> Rules?
>> If we are going to follow rules (absurd) then surely "subversive" would
>> cover at least some political statements.
>> But surely 'rules' 'from above' are antithetical to experimental film.
>> Jack
>> > There are supposed to be rules about this list -
>> >
>> >
>> > Frameworks is "an international forum on experimental film, avant-garde
>> > film, film as art, film as film, or film as visual poetry; film's
>> > expressive qualities, aside from or in addition to its storytelling
>> > capacity. Any genre of experimental film, such as film diary, found
>> > footage, abstract, flicker, lyric, subversive, expanded, etc., can be
>> > discussed, as well as those films which fall into the cracks between the
>> > genres, or those not covered by other lists.
>> >
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
> __________________________________________________________________ For
> info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.

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For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.