Re: syncing 2 16mm projectors

From: Esther Urlus (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Sep 25 2007 - 04:24:21 PDT

hi joost, lisa
and what about those Eiki's who master/slave a separate perfotape player
for doubleband projection. they have a extra motor unit. i have two of
those eiki's here in rotterdam (including the perfotape player). maybe
molleman can connect them and let them run sync easily. or maybe the
technician of the original eiki dealer (Avim) in the netherlands as i
think the machines come from there.

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> Thanks Joost!
> And for everyone else's ideas as well...
> Much appreciated...
> Best, Lisa
> On Sep 24, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Joost Rekveld wrote:
>> right, that's an amazing coincidence, I guess.
>> If I remember correctly about ten years ago this harmonious couple of
projectors was divorced, the box and one projector staying with the
original owner, and another projector being bought by a
>> collective in The Hague.
>> I will see tomorrow if I can dig up some phone-numbers in old
>> adress books or ask around so that you can find out the status of these
>> soon,
>> Joost.
>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 12:20 , Lisa Oppenheim wrote:
>>> Actually, Joost, this is for a show in Amsterdam!
>>> Do you have any idea who in the Netherlands built the machines? I
always get me film loopers from the Molleman's, but they did not seem
to know.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Lisa
>>> On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Joost Rekveld wrote:
>>>> I have seen such a setup (in Holland, so not much use to you), two
beautiful xenon hokushin projectors synced with a custom- built
setup: speed encoders on the shaft and some pulse system in a box to
sync the motors. In many ways not much different to the syncing
method used to sync perf recorders, and not very hi-tech either, even
though the gentle art of syncing motors is not much in fashion these
>>>> It was the only such setup I ever saw, used it once to project Paul
Sharits' Razor Blades ( It was interesting to see this film in
perfect sync once, but I remember missing the tension of it running
out of sync and hoping it wouldn't be too much).
>>>> Anyway the bottom line: it can certainly be done if you have
>>>> somebody to build something similar for you, but I do not know of any
out-of-the-box solutions. But I find it hard to believe there has
never been a commrcially available sync-able projector,
>>>> however obscure it may be. I'd imagine scientific cinema has had many
uses for such machines...
>>>> ciao,
>>>> Joost.
>>>> On Sep 24, 2007, at 11:27 , Dylan Armajani wrote:
>>>>> I have never seen any sort of set up that can successfully do
this... And I
>>>>> have tried before. The problem is that once you have your two
>>>>> film reels you need to make sure they start on the exact right
frame. And
>>>>> even if you succeed in doing this... Its rare to find 2 units that will
>>>>> speed up at the exact same rate.
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