From: xander!!! . (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Oct 19 2006 - 12:34:52 PDT
on the theory that it 'costs' too much to trade dvd's
it costs 20 cents to burn a dvd-r and 87 cents to mail one
there are thousands of 'kids' accross the country who manage to engage in
this type of trading culture with self produced music/mail art. in general
the ethos is if someone sends you something you send them something back,
even if it's just a postcard to say, 'yo i got yer stuff it rulz...don't
have anything new now but when i do i'll send you some shit'
if yer into it yer into, it if not that's ok but perhaps don't front. i
don't think that the theory was ever that you had to send something to
everybody on the list, but rather pick a few names at random pack up an
envelope and wait and see what comes yer way. karma is relevent. up with
community, down with limited edition scarcity logic.
>From: Philip Hood <email suppressed>
>Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>To: email suppressed
>Subject: Re: + DVD trade??
>Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:35:56 -0400
>On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, ben russell wrote:
>>... the promise of the dvd trade may very well have
>>been a false one...
>>not to call anyone out
>>but suffice to say that i'm still waiting on 10+ traders to reciprocate
> hi, analyzing this program early
> on, I realized that there was
> inherent logistical problems that
> were going to present themselves sooner
> or later.
> the reason why was: directly, its too expensive
> to make so many copies of one's work, and
> then mail them out to all the people
> in the exchange.
> I proposed, internally, to create
> an alternate system where the participants
> would, rather than exchange, would
> share the dvds, in a ring type fashion.
> in this alternate program, a member
> would create a smaller subset of
> dvds, maybe only 3, and send them off
> to a group on the list. these people
> would then view and hold and then send
> them off to the people would wanted them
> it would work essentially as netflix
> does, but instead of mailing back to
> a centralized netflix service, you'd mail
> them directly to the people who requested.
> there would be a database that would
> help to track and channel who got
> what and how.
> I would write the webservice program to
> do this.
> now, of course, the issue is that the
> program could only work in as
> far as people participated in so far
> as they updated the dvd tracking information,
> and resent the materials in a timely
> now, I understand how and why the
> initial program was created the way it
> was created - but also immediately
> understood that the monetary and other
> logistical barriers
> to really get it work sucessfully were
> simply to high.
> the program I describe is pretty low
> threshold & I think could potentially help
> to get the works to circulate in a
> more efficient manner.
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