Re: Subject: Re: Apologies to Jack Smith Enthusiasts

From: Pablo Marin (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Apr 11 2006 - 20:19:35 PDT


I donīt know, this sounds all too ridiculous to me.
people arguing about Jack Smith and not knowing Taylor
Mead, I mean. talking about homework.

looks like someone need something more than a "Warhol
for Dummies".

pablo "frameworks still amazes me sometimes" marin.
buenos aires.

--- James Tully Studio wrote:

> Owen,
>
> Look, it's nothing personal - I simply did not like
> the Jack Smith
> documentary when it was screened last fall. Jack
> Smith's work I do like.
> The documentary I do not. That's just my opinion.
>
> What is your stake in this film that you are
> defending it when you have
> not seen it as I have?
>
> Why not do your homework, go see the film that I
> already saw, and then
> come back to the list and either agree or disagree
> with me.
>
> What I will not submit to is the personal, AD
> HOMINEM comments from you
> and Mr. Kleinhans about my choice to shoot film and
> video at various
> points in my work, or which cut of the film I saw.
> I saw what was
> presented at the public screening. Later, when the
> crowd did not respond
> the way the filmmakers wanted, they said it 'wasn't
> the final cut'.
> Whatever.
>
> Please go see the film and then tell us what you
> think: I welcome that
> dialogue!
>
> I have the right to voice an opinion on the film
> that I saw. I don't
> relinquish that right under pressure.
>
> ~ James
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2006, at 8:04 PM, Owen wrote:
>
>
> What in hell is an unedited version of a
> documentary?!
> I find it hard to take your opinion seriously, based
> on your having seen
> an unedited version of a film.
> I will watch the edited version of the film before I
> form an opinion.
> Besides, how can one compare a documentary film to
> an artist's life work
> ? That's just silly.
> owen
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2006, at 8:04 PM, James Tully Studio
> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for making my point.
>
> I have indeed seen the 'unedited' version they were
> hawking around NYC
> last fall as a publicity campaign.
>
> Thus, it is my sole opinion, having seen the work,
> that the quality of
> the 'doc' was miniscule compared with the work of
> Jack Smith himself.
>
> Such a shame that a man cannot be appreciated fully
> in his lifetime,
> only to be the subject of such efforts to profit
> after his demise.
>
> ~ James Tully
>
> (For the record: I am indeed known as a 'video
> artist' because of the
> work I began with in my 20's that came to be
> exhibited at the Whitney &
> PS1/MoMA. However, all my current work is shot on
> FILM - with the
> exception of some guerilla street work where video
> is the appropriate
> 'stealth' nighttime acquisition method. I could care
> less what agents
> and curators put up on the web about my work. The
> only time I took
> offense was when The Observer called me an 'Indy
> filmmaker'. Why should
> I be assailed for using various media when the
> situation demands... ?)
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2006, OWEN
> <mailto:email suppressed WROTE>
> email suppressed WROTE:
>
> Who here has seen the Jack Smith and the Destruction
> of Atlantis
> documentary?
>
> It seems people are making assertions that it's no
> good without having
> seen it. Bogus.
> owen
>
>
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