Re: [Frameworks] this guy's youtube channel/ a different attitude towards time and attentiveness

From: Myron Ort <>
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:46:24 -0700

On Jul 16, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Fred Camper wrote:

> Quoting Myron Ort <>:
>> Remind me again the purpose of putting out the Brakhage DVD sets?
>> Watching those on a tv screen it seems to me is not entirely
>> different than watching a streaming video full-screen on a computer
>> screen (in a darkened room with distractions eliminated)....
> What? Do you think the quality of most youtube videos is at all
> comparable to the quality of the Brakhage DVD?

Compared to film all digital media is different. Among digital
presentations there are degrees of quality, just like the quality and
condition of a print. Online and Youtube films vary immensely
depending on their sources and techniques, but I am suggesting that
this form can still serve a purpose.

> The point in the email you're replying to is one about how on a
> computer there are many tempting distractions, especially a computer
> connected to the 'Net.

I was able to watch the controversial online presentation of Nelson's
"Blue Shut"
  on full screen and noticed that Youtube has a feature that hooked
the sections together. Yes, I would rather obtain better quality
DVD, Is this available now? Did the Youtube presenter steal this from
an available DVD? Anyone know the source?
I thought seeing Blue Shut online was better than not being able to
see it all.
I agree that the net is inherently distracting and conducive to
"impatience" and flipping, that is why after finding out that the
Nelson film was there, I made an appointment with myself to sit down
at a later time and give it my full attention.
As mentioned, the fact that this particular film was B&W and somewhat
"conceptual" made the online presentation more acceptable than work
more dependent on the nuances of retinal experience.
Carelessly posted snippets of Brakhage material (altered or
otherwise) that I have seen on Youtube are indeed, so far,
atrocious, and fortunately we have the high quality DVD sets.

So yes, I agree, the casual uninformed viewer who stumbles upon an
experimental film on Youtube will be distracted with the usual
presentation unless particularly motivated to make the most of the
opportunity to view something otherwise very difficult if not
impossible to see elsewhere.
But even so, it may pique an interest.

> When I watch a DVD on my computer it's full screen and I don't open up
> other windows. Youtube is less conducive to that, resolution being one
> reason. Thus you are more likely to be distracted by other things.
> This doesn't mean you can't rule out distractions if you have strong
> willpower.
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
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