During my Hand-Processing Intensive classes ["Subversive Cinema"]
which I offered at the San Francisco Art Institute from 2006 to
2009, the remarkable students and I devised this successful
formula for developing Tri-x with instant coffee:
Mix 8 ounces of water with 4 teaspoons of instant coffee
Add 2 teaspoons of washing soda ( often sold as a laundry product)
This activates the developing agent in the coffee. Rainbow Grocery in
SF sells washing soda in bulk.
Stir and develop film for 25 minutes at 68 degrees F.
I recall that Tomonari Nishikawa produced his "Shake and Bake" film
using coffee as a developer when he was in the graduate Film Program
at SFAI.
Janis Crystal Lipzin
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> 3. Re: Analog and digital (Steven Gladstone)
> 4. Re: Moving to San Francisco (Aaron F. Ross)
> 5. Projector Repair: Elmo GS 1200 (andrew lampert)
> 6. Re: Moving to San Francisco (Myron Ort)
> 7. Re: Moving to San Francisco (Douglas Katelus)
> 8. Re: Moving to San Francisco (Dan Baker)
> 9. Re: Moving to San Francisco (Aaron F. Ross)
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> 11. Re: Moving to San Francisco (Jim Flannery)
> 12. Re: eco-friendly developing with organic coffee (Stefan
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:02:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Steve Polta <stevepolta_at_yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID:
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> Several exhibition venues in the San Francisco Bay Area, all of
> which will be presented substantial programs of what could be
> considered avant-garde/experimental/underground works in the coming
> months (presented alphabetically):
>
> Artists' Television Access (ATA): www.atasite.org
> Canyon Cinema: www.canyoncinema.com
> Oddball Films: www.oddballfilm.com
> Other Cinema (at ATA): www.othercinema.com
> San Francisco Cinematheque: www.sfcinematheque.org
> There is also a new venue in west Oakland called "Black Hole" which
> (I believe) promotes itself primarily via Facebook. Best just to go
> there (Facebook that is, assuming if you are part of the Facebook
> hive mind) and search for them.
>
> And please...
> Before anyone says anything...
> I am the Artistic Director of Cinematheque. I am a filmmaker member
> (and once employee and board member—but not currently) of Canyon
> Cinema. I am a long-time volunteer with Other Cinema/ATA. I even
> worked for Oddball for a short time years ago.
> Call this disclosure.
> This collation of publicly-accessible information is posted out of
> a sense of love for this local film scene and for this community,
> enthusiam for the coming season and as an act of generosity towards
> a newcomer. Beyond this I make no claims to speak for, advocate
> for, or argue the merits (or shortcomings) of any of the above
> venues (other than Cinematheque). OK? I also apologize to any
> venues I may have left out. No venue was omitted from my list due
> to personal (or institutional) ill will; if there have been any
> omissions it is only due to my personal ignorance.
>
> Peace out,
> Steve Polta
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/29/11, carl elsaesser <elsaesserc_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: carl elsaesser <elsaesserc_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
> To: frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:51 AM
>
> Hey, I just moved to San Francisco from Maine and I wanted to check
> out the film community here. I would love any and all advice on
> organizing community events, if there are non-profit organizations
> set up for experimental film makers or of funding opportunities for
> young film-makers.
>
>
> even if it is just for coffee I would love to hear what artists
> have been up to here, and get a sense of collaboration possibilities.
>
> Thanks and too much love,
>
> --
> cArl Elsaesser
> 207-607-2610
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:28:27 -0400
> From: Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Analog and digital
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> . All imagers are ANALOG. In the process of converting the light
> striking the imager (film or electronic sensor) to an electronic
> version
> (um analog) for storage and later display it is "sampled" and
> converted
> to numerical values. The more samples per second, the smoother the
> resulting waveforms will be when the digital information is
> reconverted
> to analog for display. The more pixels as well, equates to smoother
> transitions.
>
> Kind of confusing.
> "In the process of converting the light
> striking the imager (film or electronic sensor) to an electronic
> version
> (um analog) for storage and later display it is "sampled" and
> converted
> to numerical values. "
>
> Film emulsion was never electronic.
>
> On 8/28/11, Steven Gladstone <Steven_at_gladstonefilms.com> wrote:
>> On 8/27/11 9:12 PM, Flick Harrison wrote:
>>
>>> I'd call film analog because each grain is exposed to a light of
>>> varying
>>> colour and brightness, for any amount of time, focused by any
>>> amount,
>>> then processed with more or less chemicals and time, all of which
>>> are
>>> analog variables. The placement of grain on a frame is also
>>> random and
>>> analog.
>>
>> Digital - provides a precise voltage state (either on or off) for
>> each
>> "photosite"/pixel. Here is the thing.
>>
>> 1. If you say digital is ones and zeroes you are referring to and
>> analog
>> representation of on and off. It isn't really ones and zeroes.
>> Noise floor and strength of signal, and signal degradation will all
>> affect how this is represented. In digital it is either on or off,
>> if a
>> signal is above the off state but not fully at the on state, then
>> what?
>> It is rounded either up or down to on or off. This can lead to
>> various
>> issues in either capture, or display.
>>
>> 2. All imagers are ANALOG. In the process of converting the light
>> striking the imager (film or electronic sensor) to an electronic
>> version
>> (um analog) for storage and later display it is "sampled" and
>> converted
>> to numerical values. The more samples per second, the smoother the
>> resulting waveforms will be when the digital information is
>> reconverted
>> to analog for display. The more pixels as well, equates to smoother
>> transitions.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steven Gladstone
>> New York Based Cinematographer
>> Gladstone films
>> Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/
>> http://www.blakehousemovie.com
>> http://www.gladstonefilms.com
>> 917-886-5858
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:36:00 -0400
> From: Steven Gladstone <Steven_at_gladstonefilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Analog and digital
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID: <4E5BF830.9000402_at_gladstonefilms.com>
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> On 8/29/11 4:28 PM, Francisco Torres wrote:
>
>> Film emulsion was never electronic.
>
> Yes, and contact prints are wonderful things, but the discussion (I
> thought) was about Shooting on film or Digital and transferring to
> digital for post or storage. That was what I was referring to. I
> apologize for any confusion I contributed to.
>
> --
> Steven Gladstone
> New York Based Cinematographer
> Gladstone films
> Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/
> http://www.blakehousemovie.com
> http://www.gladstonefilms.com
> 917-886-5858
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:44:08 -0700
> From: "Aaron F. Ross" <aaron_at_digitalartsguild.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20110829133650.05458570_at_digitalartsguild.com>
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>
> The avant-garde film scene in this town has
> really degenerated in the last ten years. I took
> a break for a while to work on other things, and
> when I came back I found that the scene I knew
> and loved had fallen on hard times.
>
> I can't recommend San Francisco as a place to
> find new and exciting avant-garde motion picture
> events. The venues Steve mentioned seem to be
> stuck in the 60's. I have nothing against
> structuralism, etc. per se, but frankly I see a
> lack of imagination and an inability to embrace
> new methods. This is an ill omen.
>
> Don't come here expecting a vibrant community.
> It's stodgy, eccentric, self-absorbed, insular,
> and profoundly unimaginative. The old guard have
> no mojo left in them, and the young people are
> too busy fluffing their Burning Man costumes to do anything
> revolutionary.
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
>
>
> At 8/29/2011, you wrote:
>> Several exhibition venues in the San Francisco
>> Bay Area, all of which will be presented
>> substantial programs of what could be considered
>> avant-garde/experimental/underground works in
>> the coming months (presented alphabetically):
>>
>> Artists' Television Access (ATA): www.atasite.org
>> Canyon Cinema: www.canyoncinema.com
>> Oddball Films: www.oddballfilm.com
>> Other Cinema (at ATA): www.othercinema.com
>> San Francisco Cinematheque: www.sfcinematheque.org
>> There is also a new venue in west Oakland called
>> "Black Hole" which (I believe) promotes itself
>> primarily via Facebook. Best just to go there
>> (Facebook that is, assuming if you are part of
>> the Facebook hive mind) and search for them.
>>
>> And please...
>> Before anyone says anything...
>> I am the Artistic Director of Cinematheque. I am
>> a filmmaker member (and once employee and board
>> memberbut not currently) of Canyon Cinema. I
>> am a long-time volunteer with Other Cinema/ATA.
>> I even worked for Oddball for a short time years ago.
>> Call this disclosure.
>> This collation of publicly-accessible
>> information is posted out of a sense of love for
>> this local film scene and for this community,
>> enthusiam for the coming season and as an act of
>> generosity towards a newcomer. Beyond this I
>> make no claims to speak for, advocate for, or
>> argue the merits (or shortcomings) of any of the
>> above venues (other than Cinematheque). OK? I
>> also apologize to any venues I may have left
>> out. No venue was omitted from my list due to
>> personal (or institutional) ill will; if there
>> have been any omissions it is only due to my personal ignorance.
>>
>> Peace out,
>> Steve Polta
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 8/29/11, carl elsaesser <elsaesserc_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: carl elsaesser <elsaesserc_at_gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
>> To: frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:51 AM
>>
>> Hey, I just moved to San Francisco from Maine
>> and I wanted to check out the film community
>> here. I would love any and all advice on
>> organizing community events, if there are
>> non-profit organizations set up for experimental
>> film makers or of funding opportunities for young film-makers.
>>
>> even if it is just for coffee I would love to
>> hear what artists have been up to here, and get
>> a sense of collaboration possibilities.
>>
>> Thanks and too much love,
>>
>> --
>> cArl Elsaesser
>> 207-607-2610
>> <http://www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee>http://
>> www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee
>>
>>
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> -------------------------------------------
>
> Aaron F. Ross
> Digital Arts Guild
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
> From: andrew lampert <andrewlampert_at_yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Projector Repair: Elmo GS 1200
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID:
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> Hi,
>
> Anyone here have a local (NYC area) repair person who can check out
> an Elmo GS-1200? It might just be a belt, but I'm not sure. Any
> leads much appreciated.
>
> Best,
> A.
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> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:47:42 -0700
> From: Myron Ort <zeno_at_sonic.net>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID: <F46B8D10-B750-48B2-8775-5460ECC7B69A_at_sonic.net>
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> Now tell us how you really feel.
> Just kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if what you say is true. I
> dropped out long ago to grow my own veges in the country.
>
> Myron Ort
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Aaron F. Ross wrote:
>
>> The avant-garde film scene in this town has
>> really degenerated in the last ten years. I took
>> a break for a while to work on other things, and
>> when I came back I found that the scene I knew
>> and loved had fallen on hard times.
>>
>> I can't recommend San Francisco as a place to
>> find new and exciting avant-garde motion picture
>> events. The venues Steve mentioned seem to be
>> stuck in the 60's. I have nothing against
>> structuralism, etc. per se, but frankly I see a
>> lack of imagination and an inability to embrace
>> new methods. This is an ill omen.
>>
>> Don't come here expecting a vibrant community.
>> It's stodgy, eccentric, self-absorbed, insular,
>> and profoundly unimaginative. The old guard have
>> no mojo left in them, and the young people are
>> too busy fluffing their Burning Man costumes to do anything
>> revolutionary.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 8/29/2011, you wrote:
>>> Several exhibition venues in the San Francisco
>>> Bay Area, all of which will be presented
>>> substantial programs of what could be considered
>>> avant-garde/experimental/underground works in
>>> the coming months (presented alphabetically):
>>>
>>> Artists' Television Access (ATA): www.atasite.org
>>> Canyon Cinema: www.canyoncinema.com
>>> Oddball Films: www.oddballfilm.com
>>> Other Cinema (at ATA): www.othercinema.com
>>> San Francisco Cinematheque: www.sfcinematheque.org
>>> There is also a new venue in west Oakland called
>>> "Black Hole" which (I believe) promotes itself
>>> primarily via Facebook. Best just to go there
>>> (Facebook that is, assuming if you are part of
>>> the Facebook hive mind) and search for them.
>>>
>>> And please...
>>> Before anyone says anything...
>>> I am the Artistic Director of Cinematheque. I am
>>> a filmmaker member (and once employee and board
>>> member—”but not currently) of Canyon Cinema. I
>>> am a long-time volunteer with Other Cinema/ATA.
>>> I even worked for Oddball for a short time years ago.
>>> Call this disclosure.
>>> This collation of publicly-accessible
>>> information is posted out of a sense of love for
>>> this local film scene and for this community,
>>> enthusiam for the coming season and as an act of
>>> generosity towards a newcomer. Beyond this I
>>> make no claims to speak for, advocate for, or
>>> argue the merits (or shortcomings) of any of the
>>> above venues (other than Cinematheque). OK? I
>>> also apologize to any venues I may have left
>>> out. No venue was omitted from my list due to
>>> personal (or institutional) ill will; if there
>>> have been any omissions it is only due to my personal ignorance.
>>>
>>> Peace out,
>>> Steve Polta
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 8/29/11, carl elsaesser <elsaesserc_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: carl elsaesser <elsaesserc_at_gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
>>> To: frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:51 AM
>>>
>>> Hey, I just moved to San Francisco from Maine
>>> and I wanted to check out the film community
>>> here. I would love any and all advice on
>>> organizing community events, if there are
>>> non-profit organizations set up for experimental
>>> film makers or of funding opportunities for young film-makers.
>>>
>>> even if it is just for coffee I would love to
>>> hear what artists have been up to here, and get
>>> a sense of collaboration possibilities.
>>>
>>> Thanks and too much love,
>>>
>>> --
>>> cArl Elsaesser
>>> 207-607-2610
>>> <http://www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee>http://
>>> www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee
>>>
>>>
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>> Aaron F. Ross
>> Digital Arts Guild
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:22:38 -0700
> From: Douglas Katelus <eastshorefilms_at_hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
> To: <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID: <SNT122-W57ABE28FAFF89C06798F77D2140_at_phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
>
> Arron,
>
> ATA was founded in the 80's? wonder how that makes it stuck in the
> 60's? And Craig Baldwin's programming at Other Cinema has always been
> focused on new and exciting work. He is as far from the structured
> establishment as you can get. And the Burning Man people are all
> out of
> town so enjoy yourself for once... don't think I've really seen
> them at experimental film shows... at least not with feathered
> hats. I too
> dislike the old guard but you obviously didn't read Steve Polta's
> email fully. I don't comment on this list much primarily because it
> seems
> to be full of people blowing hot air(via type) in order to make
> themselves feel more important. I can not comment on Black Hole
> because
> I have yet to attend the space but there is more going on in
> regards to underground film here then anyplace in this beautiful
> country that I have been to.
>
> Now I too have my issues with people being stuck in the 60's and
> the egotistical nature of burning man but that's got nothing to do
> with this.
> I would recommend Mr. Elsaesser check out ATA, and keep and open
> ear for shows at New Nothing Cinema when he gets to San Francisco and
> try to have a good time. Tons of artists are making new movies out
> here all the time, underground film may of gone a bit more under
> but it's
> running strong out west.
>
> dk
>
>
>
>> From: zeno_at_sonic.net
>> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:47:42 -0700
>> To: frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
>>
>> Now tell us how you really feel.
>> Just kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if what you say is true. I
>> dropped out long ago to grow my own veges in the country.
>>
>> Myron Ort
>>
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Aaron F. Ross wrote:
>>
>>> The avant-garde film scene in this town has
>>> really degenerated in the last ten years. I took
>>> a break for a while to work on other things, and
>>> when I came back I found that the scene I knew
>>> and loved had fallen on hard times.
>>>
>>> I can't recommend San Francisco as a place to
>>> find new and exciting avant-garde motion picture
>>> events. The venues Steve mentioned seem to be
>>> stuck in the 60's. I have nothing against
>>> structuralism, etc. per se, but frankly I see a
>>> lack of imagination and an inability to embrace
>>> new methods. This is an ill omen.
>>>
>>> Don't come here expecting a vibrant community.
>>> It's stodgy, eccentric, self-absorbed, insular,
>>> and profoundly unimaginative. The old guard have
>>> no mojo left in them, and the young people are
>>> too busy fluffing their Burning Man costumes to do anything
>>> revolutionary.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 8/29/2011, you wrote:
>>>> Several exhibition venues in the San Francisco
>>>> Bay Area, all of which will be presented
>>>> substantial programs of what could be considered
>>>> avant-garde/experimental/underground works in
>>>> the coming months (presented alphabetically):
>>>>
>>>> Artists' Television Access (ATA): www.atasite.org
>>>> Canyon Cinema: www.canyoncinema.com
>>>> Oddball Films: www.oddballfilm.com
>>>> Other Cinema (at ATA): www.othercinema.com
>>>> San Francisco Cinematheque: www.sfcinematheque.org
>>>> There is also a new venue in west Oakland called
>>>> "Black Hole" which (I believe) promotes itself
>>>> primarily via Facebook. Best just to go there
>>>> (Facebook that is, assuming if you are part of
>>>> the Facebook hive mind) and search for them.
>>>>
>>>> And please...
>>>> Before anyone says anything...
>>>> I am the Artistic Director of Cinematheque. I am
>>>> a filmmaker member (and once employee and board
>>>> member—”but not currently) of Canyon Cinema. I
>>>> am a long-time volunteer with Other Cinema/ATA.
>>>> I even worked for Oddball for a short time years ago.
>>>> Call this disclosure.
>>>> This collation of publicly-accessible
>>>> information is posted out of a sense of love for
>>>> this local film scene and for this community,
>>>> enthusiam for the coming season and as an act of
>>>> generosity towards a newcomer. Beyond this I
>>>> make no claims to speak for, advocate for, or
>>>> argue the merits (or shortcomings) of any of the
>>>> above venues (other than Cinematheque). OK? I
>>>> also apologize to any venues I may have left
>>>> out. No venue was omitted from my list due to
>>>> personal (or institutional) ill will; if there
>>>> have been any omissions it is only due to my personal ignorance.
>>>>
>>>> Peace out,
>>>> Steve Polta
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Mon, 8/29/11, carl elsaesser <elsaesserc_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: carl elsaesser <elsaesserc_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
>>>> To: frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com
>>>> Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:51 AM
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I just moved to San Francisco from Maine
>>>> and I wanted to check out the film community
>>>> here. I would love any and all advice on
>>>> organizing community events, if there are
>>>> non-profit organizations set up for experimental
>>>> film makers or of funding opportunities for young film-makers.
>>>>
>>>> even if it is just for coffee I would love to
>>>> hear what artists have been up to here, and get
>>>> a sense of collaboration possibilities.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and too much love,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> cArl Elsaesser
>>>> 207-607-2610
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee>http://
>>>> www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Aaron F. Ross
>>> Digital Arts Guild
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:16:00 -0400
> From: Dan Baker <daniel.c.baker_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
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> there's a place in SOMA that I used to go to sometimes, I think
> it's new
> nothing cinema or some derivative of the sort
> it's on a side street right off of a playground and small baseball
> field,
> and near the highway overpass
>
> dan
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:53:25 -0700
> From: "Aaron F. Ross" <aaron_at_digitalartsguild.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
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> I have fond memories of New Nothing, Rock Ross is a great guy. I
> curated a show there once. But it's definitely "under the radar" --
> haven't heard a peep about it for years.
>
> http://newnothing.wordpress.com/
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
>
> At 8/29/2011, you wrote:
>> there's a place in SOMA that I used to go to sometimes, I think it's
>> new nothing cinema or some derivative of the sort
>> it's on a side street right off of a playground and small baseball
>> field, and near the highway overpass
>>
>> dan
>>
>> --
>> <http://www.hamburgertransmission.com>hamburgertransmission
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> Aaron F. Ross
> Digital Arts Guild
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:03:04 -0700
> From: Douglas Katelus <eastshorefilms_at_hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
> To: <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
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>
> it's word of mouth, somebody set up that website but it has nothing
> to do with the place and has never been updated. Shows are
> happening at New Nothing evey month
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:53:25 -0700
>> To: frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com
>> From: aaron_at_digitalartsguild.com
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
>>
>> I have fond memories of New Nothing, Rock Ross is a great guy. I
>> curated a show there once. But it's definitely "under the radar" --
>> haven't heard a peep about it for years.
>>
>> http://newnothing.wordpress.com/
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 8/29/2011, you wrote:
>>> there's a place in SOMA that I used to go to sometimes, I think it's
>>> new nothing cinema or some derivative of the sort
>>> it's on a side street right off of a playground and small baseball
>>> field, and near the highway overpass
>>>
>>> dan
>>>
>>> --
>>> <http://www.hamburgertransmission.com>hamburgertransmission
>>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:10:00 -0700
> From: Jim Flannery <jim_at_newgrangemedia.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
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> Monday, August 29, 2011, 5:53:25 PM, one wrote:
>
>> I have fond memories of New Nothing, Rock Ross is a great guy. I
>> curated a show there once. But it's definitely "under the radar" --
>> haven't heard a peep about it for years.
>
> I went to a screening at New Nothing last Wednesday.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Jim Flannery
> jim_at_newgrangemedia.com
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:50:57 -0400
> From: Stefan Grabowski <stefan_at_radonlake.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
> To: <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
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>
> Coffee was used for both the first and second developer. Vitamin C
> (in the form of Emergen-C drink mix) was added to speed up the
> process. Also, to the person that asked if the sepia toning came
> from the coffee - yes. Thanks for all the positive responses from
> everyone.
>
> -Stefan Grabowski
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:00:27 -0700
> From: dickyvanness_at_gmail.com
> To: frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
>
> Hey Stefan,
> In your notes on the videos, you say development took only an
> hour... did you use the coffee developer for both the first and
> second developer? Or only the second? If only for the second
> developer, what did you use for the first? The processing looks
> beautiful... Thanks!
>
> Rick Bahto
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Stefan Grabowski
> <stefan_at_radonlake.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I've been playing around with this method for over a year (though
> admittedly with non-organic coffee). Here's some video of super-8
> reversal I developed with coffee: http://vimeo.com/10148379 and
> http://vimeo.com/10148082. I've also heard that table salt can be
> used as fixer if you give it enough time and was always curious
> about the possibility of a non-toxic bleach made from over-the-
> counter chemicals - perhaps something based on hydrogen peroxide.
> Any chemists out there?
>
>
> -Stefan Grabowski
> http://stefan.radonlake.com
>
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 8/26/11, Pip Chodorov <frameworks_at_re-voir.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Pip Chodorov <frameworks_at_re-voir.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
> To: frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com
>
> Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 10:03 AM
>
> Dear FrameWorkers,
> My friend Enrico in Colombia has succeeded in developing with coffee.
> There is a recipe and a test result on his blog http://
> kinocoffe.blogspot.com/.
>
> Has anyone else played with this?
> ...and no wisecracks please about developing a "coffee filter" for
> final cut pro to mimic
> this result!
> -Pip
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:54:58 -0700
> From: Adam Hyman <amleon13_at_earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Looking for print of Juliet by Man Ray
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> Hi,
>
> Looking for a print of Juliet by Man Ray. Only lead I've been
> given so far
> is Pompidou Centre. Does anyone know of any other source?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
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> Los Angeles Filmforum
> lafilmforum_at_yahoo.com
> adam_at_lafilmforum.org
> http://www.lafilmforum.org
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:01:50 +0100
> From: <benjamin.rowley_at_canterbury.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Frameworks] 16mm Exhibition
> To: <frameworks_at_jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> Hello
>
> An exhibition celebrating 16mm film in the form of enlarged strips
> of 16mm is taking place in Broadstairs for the next 5 days.
> The work ranges from photographed imagery to
> reworked,scratched,paint on clear celluloid etc.
> If you are near the Kent sea side over the weekend perhaps you
> would like to take a look.
> Thank you for reading this
>
> Best regards
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