Gregg,
Yes, I remember the E.G. Robinson one now. But, I also remember what
is perhaps a second one as well, where the audience member stands up
and moves in the aisle, saying 'excuse me, pardon me.' Also, I'm
almost certain that Avery used the hair in the gate gag more than
once. I can't quite remember the one where the characters run off the
frame, and we see the sprocket holes, but I believe it was one or two
hunting dogs that did it. Guess it's time to dig out my laser disc
collections of WB toons, and (MGM) Avery toons, to refresh my memory.
David B.,
Screwball Squirrel violated the fourth wall in every toon, IIRC. I
loved that, yet I have read that Avery hated Screwball Squirrel.
Ken B.
Quoting gregg biermann <mubbazoo_at_optonline.net>:
> Ken,
>
> The one with the silhouette of the audience member standing (and
> interacting with a caricature of Edward G. Robinson in Little Caesar)
> was an Avery WB Cartoon "Thugs with Dirty Mugs". The silhouette then
> remains past a cut into a new scene and rats out Edward to the cops.
> The same cartoon breaks the conventions of split screen when a character
> moves across the split.
>
> As Mark pointed out, in the Avery Cartoon "Magical Maestro" a character
> grabs what appears to be a hair in the projector gate and plucks it out.
> That was done at MGM.
>
> Medium specificity ... for the sake of humor.
>
> Gregg
>
>
> On 4/19/2011 2:17 AM, Ken Bawcom wrote:
>> There is at least one Tex Avery cartoon where we see the film burn in
>> the gate. I don't recall the title, or even if it was for WB or MGM.
>> He did at least one where the character runs off the edge of the film,
>> and we see the sprocket holes. I think that one was with MGM.He also
>> did the hair in the gate thing, and had at least one where a "member
>> of the audience" stood up, casting a shadow on the film. Sorry, I'm
>> too lazy to poke around The Big Cartoon Database (www.BCDb.com) and
>> try to come up with titles.
>>
>> Ken B.
>>
>>
>> Quoting David Baker<dbaker1_at_hvc.rr.com>:
>>
>>> During the cartoon Duck Amuck by Chuck Jones,
>>> for a time Daffy is left to prop the film frame up
>>> with a stick before it collapses in on him entirely.
>>>
>>> The film ends by revealing that a paint brush wielding
>>> Bugs Bunny as animator (outside the film) has been responsible for all
>>> of Daffy's
>>> phantasmagorical predicaments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like this term "film rupture" for self referential manifestations.
>>>> In a film I am currently working on, a paint brush wielding character
>>>> paints himself in a context where the brush strokes show up on the
>>>> film itself.
>>>>
>>>> Myron Ort
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>>
>> "Those who would give up essential liberty
>> to purchase a little temporary safety
>> deserve neither liberty, nor safety."
>> Benjamin Franklin 1775
>>
>> "I know that the hypnotized never lie... Do ya?"
>> Pete Townshend 1971
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