Re: [Frameworks] Film's rupture/cartoons

From: David Baker <dbaker1_at_hvc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:13:17 -0400

The gag Gregg cites occurred in a slightly different form
one year previously in 1938's DAFFY DUCK AND EGGHEAD. At one point
Egghead
(a shotgun wielding hunter) shoots a troublesome audience member (in
silhouette) outside the
fourth wall.

Preceding the French New Wave, Tex Avery's oeuvre is rife with
instances of cinematic self-reference
and reflexivity, if not actual references to film as material per se.

In LUCKY DUCKY, two dogs in hunting attire run out of a color film
("Technicolor Ends Here") into a black and white picture momentarily.

In HAPPY GO NUTTY Screwball Squirrel and Meathead run right past
the end title thereafter returning to reexamine their motivations in
order to reconstitute
a new albeit loonier ending.

Midway through SCREWBALL SQUIRREL the eponymous rodent
peels back the entire mise-en-scene so that he and we can see
what will happen next. Screwball Squirrel consistently breaks the
fourth wall by talking to the audience.

On and on,

DB

On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:39 AM, gregg biermann wrote:

> Ken,
>
> The one with the silhouette of the audience member standing (and
> interacting with a caricature of Edward G. Robinson in Little Caesar)
> was an Avery WB Cartoon "Thugs with Dirty Mugs". The silhouette then
> remains past a cut into a new scene and rats out Edward to the cops.
> The same cartoon breaks the conventions of split screen when a
> character
> moves across the split.
>
> As Mark pointed out, in the Avery Cartoon "Magical Maestro" a
> character
> grabs what appears to be a hair in the projector gate and plucks it
> out.
> That was done at MGM.
>
> Medium specificity ... for the sake of humor.
>
> Gregg
>
>
> On 4/19/2011 2:17 AM, Ken Bawcom wrote:
>> There is at least one Tex Avery cartoon where we see the film burn in
>> the gate. I don't recall the title, or even if it was for WB or MGM.
>> He did at least one where the character runs off the edge of the
>> film,
>> and we see the sprocket holes. I think that one was with MGM.He also
>> did the hair in the gate thing, and had at least one where a "member
>> of the audience" stood up, casting a shadow on the film. Sorry, I'm
>> too lazy to poke around The Big Cartoon Database (www.BCDb.com) and
>> try to come up with titles.
>>
>> Ken B.
>>
>>
>> Quoting David Baker<dbaker1_at_hvc.rr.com>:
>>
>>> During the cartoon Duck Amuck by Chuck Jones,
>>> for a time Daffy is left to prop the film frame up
>>> with a stick before it collapses in on him entirely.
>>>
>>> The film ends by revealing that a paint brush wielding
>>> Bugs Bunny as animator (outside the film) has been responsible for
>>> all
>>> of Daffy's
>>> phantasmagorical predicaments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like this term "film rupture" for self referential
>>>> manifestations.
>>>> In a film I am currently working on, a paint brush wielding
>>>> character
>>>> paints himself in a context where the brush strokes show up on the
>>>> film itself.
>>>>
>>>> Myron Ort
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>>
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>> to purchase a little temporary safety
>> deserve neither liberty, nor safety."
>> Benjamin Franklin 1775
>>
>> "I know that the hypnotized never lie... Do ya?"
>> Pete Townshend 1971
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