Re: [Frameworks] Sound from Projectors

From: Isaac Alpert Sherman (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Feb 23 2011 - 17:10:11 PST


What I've done to achieve this "slight hissing noise" is also slightly unorthodox. There are a couple ways to do it but basically what I've done is use black leader or even mag stock and scratch a straight (or close to straight) line along the soundtrack path. This will allow some light to come through from the exciter bulb but you won't have the clicking of the sprockets going through - rather, you'll get a kind of hissing popping sound similar to an old record. If the line isn't perfectly straight, it makes for a cool "in and out" effect and even alters the volume slightly.

In your case, you could make this scratch line on your final print, but if you don't want to do that, perhaps you could give the lap an "optical master" of simply an equal length of black leader with a scratch along the optical path. I, myself, have never dealt with a lab, so I'm not sure if they would do this for you (special request in order?). Indeed, this is a tedious task but it might just give you the sound you're looking for...

As far as the sound coming out of the projectors, you'll probably want to run the speaker out into a direct box, converting it to a line level, then running that into your mixer or what-have-you.

Hope this answers, or helps to answer your question.

Good luck!

Isaac Sherman

----- Original Message -----
From: "mike rice" <email suppressed>
To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <email suppressed>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:49:56 PM
Subject: [Frameworks] Sound from Projectors

Hello fello Frameworkers:

I am currently in the midst of my thesis project. It is an experimental film, employing multiple projections (both 16 and Super 8, optical printing, painting on film, etc etc) and I am attempting something a bit unorthodox as far as the sound goes and I was wondering if any of you would have input...

For mostly conceptual reasons, I want the sound in the film to be the actual sound coming from the projector itself (while my film is playing through). As is, my film is double perf so I will be getting an inter-neg made and a final print (single perf) so that you do not hear the "clickclickclick" of each sprocket hole. So here is my question: I intend on running several guitar distortion pedals from the project to the amplifier of the theater. I will be slightly adjusting the tone of the pedals while the film is running. Has anyone done this before? have advice on the best way to get "funky" sounds out of the projector....

I know this is a pretty broad question, but I just wanted people to share their stories (if you have any) about using the sound of the projector itself (the slight hissing noise) as a soundtrack.

best, Mike Rice

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