Re: [Frameworks] cameraless films...or ?

From: jeanne LIOTTA (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Dec 25 2010 - 22:02:14 PST


REmedial Reading Comprehenison, Landow might be good too? Not a performace
per se, but includes performative gestures inside the film and outside the
film, as well as the idea of YOU the spectator.

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Shelly Silver <email suppressed>wrote:

> yes, it's true very true roger, i was aware/nervous about this when i
> sent it, that's why i put 'play well together.' i unfortunately don't
> have enough time/resources to spend an entire class on various
> performed camera-less films. the frampton brings up a huge range of
> issues (among them sitting in the dark w/strangers) not only having to
> do with the fact that it's camera-less and i was hoping to expand out
> from there. i also like the idea of starting off with the idea of
> reperformance (speaking in someone else's voice twice removed).
>
> i guess i'm casting the net wide, looking for experiments in thinking
> about film - i could also happily show a warhol in the mix (endurance/
> movement/non-movement). again a question of accessibility and time
> and framing.
>
> shelly
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> On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Beebe,Roger W wrote:
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> > Shelly,
> >
> > I was thinking that the subject line might actually be sending
> > people in the wrong direction. If you were simply looking for
> > "cameraless" films, then there'd be a million suggestions (starting
> > with Len Lye, Norman McLaren, Harry Smith, et al.). But the
> > Frampton is really about "filmless films," which it seems to me is a
> > really different matter. A cameraless film is something that you
> > could still "get a copy" of; a "filmless film" has no body, is all
> > time and light and performance, so there'd be no way to simply get a
> > copy (like the Gibson/Recoder projector performances--at best you
> > could get a "documentation"). I do really like the suggestion of
> > the Morgan Fisher, but it's hard to come up with a long list of
> > films that are reproducible that are true to the spirit of
> > Frampton's musings on light & projectors. (Of course, that
> > distinction could be an interesting part of the class discussion.)
> >
> > Two (more) cents,
> > Roger
> >
> > On Dec 25, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Shelly Silver wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks! Do you know where I might get a copy of this?
> >>
> >>
> >> Shelly
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> >>
> >> On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Madison Brookshire wrote:
> >>
> >>> Projection Instructions by Morgan Fisher.
> >>>
> >>> Madison Brookshire
> >>> Los Angeles
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Beebe,Roger W <email suppressed>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Get Luis Recoder and Sandra Gibson to come to your class and do
> >>>> some projector performances! (That'd be the obvious fit, but I
> >>>> don't know how realistic it'd be to try to make that happen.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Good luck,
> >>>> Roger
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Shelly Silver wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> dear all:
> >>>>> i'm doing a class with a reperformance of Hollis Frampton's 'A
> >>>>> Lecture' as its centerpiece. Any suggestions of films that would
> >>>>> play
> >>>>> well with this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> best!
> >>>>> shelly
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