Re: [Frameworks] cameraless films...or ?

From: Beebe,Roger W (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Dec 25 2010 - 09:21:50 PST


Shelly,

I was thinking that the subject line might actually be sending people in the wrong direction. If you were simply looking for "cameraless" films, then there'd be a million suggestions (starting with Len Lye, Norman McLaren, Harry Smith, et al.). But the Frampton is really about "filmless films," which it seems to me is a really different matter. A cameraless film is something that you could still "get a copy" of; a "filmless film" has no body, is all time and light and performance, so there'd be no way to simply get a copy (like the Gibson/Recoder projector performances--at best you could get a "documentation"). I do really like the suggestion of the Morgan Fisher, but it's hard to come up with a long list of films that are reproducible that are true to the spirit of Frampton's musings on light & projectors. (Of course, that distinction could be an interesting part of the class discussion.)

Two (more) cents,
Roger

On Dec 25, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Shelly Silver wrote:

> Thanks! Do you know where I might get a copy of this?
>
>
> Shelly
>
>
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Madison Brookshire wrote:
>
>> Projection Instructions by Morgan Fisher.
>>
>> Madison Brookshire
>> Los Angeles
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>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Beebe,Roger W <email suppressed>
>> wrote:
>>> Get Luis Recoder and Sandra Gibson to come to your class and do
>>> some projector performances! (That'd be the obvious fit, but I
>>> don't know how realistic it'd be to try to make that happen.)
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Shelly Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>> dear all:
>>>> i'm doing a class with a reperformance of Hollis Frampton's 'A
>>>> Lecture' as its centerpiece. Any suggestions of films that would
>>>> play
>>>> well with this?
>>>>
>>>> best!
>>>> shelly
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