Re: [Frameworks] UbuWeb...HACKED!

From: Anna Biller (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Oct 14 2010 - 23:19:56 PDT

They may not have access to prints, but if they really cared and
wanted to support experimental film they could buy an inexpensive
Brakhage DVD on Amazon and have it shipped to them internationally,
and then Marilyn Brakhage could make a dollar or two or fifty cents
which would be nice. If no one pays for anything and everyone insists
on getting everything for free, we will ONLY have the corporations and
the work they produce, because no one else will be able to afford to
produce anything.

On Oct 14, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Fred Camper wrote:

> I have to largely agree with Beth here -- as is well known, people
> whose last names begin with "Ca" are unusually smart.
> I do think that artists should be able to have their work removed from
> the 'Net if they request it, but as I understand it most cites, Ubu
> included, were doing that. At the same time, once a cultural product
> has been put out in the world, and has influenced others, it should
> not solely be considered the "property" of its maker at least in moral
> terms, even if, legally, it is, because it has become part of the
> discourse.
> Quoting Beth Capper <email suppressed>:
>> The bad image is perhaps more of an incentive
>> to see a pristine print....
> I think I posted confirming this a few years back. I was invited to
> present six programs of Brakhage films in Rio de Janeiro. Nobody could
> remember the last time Brakhage in prints were in that great city. I
> carried most of them; some were shipped. The shows wend splendidly.
> And many of the people there told me that their interest in Brakhage
> had been stimulated by the horrible (and, presumably, illegal) copies
> they had seen on the 'Net. They knew these were bad versions, but were
> at the least intrigued, and really wanted to see the real thing.
> The fact is that prints of the "classics" of our field are just not
> available in most of the world, especially the world outside of the
> US, Canada, Europe, Australia, and Japan.
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
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