From: Beverly O'Neill (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Oct 13 2010 - 17:27:29 PDT
Dear Jack, Your point is well taken. How do viewers get access to this kind of work? However, UBU simply pirated artists films without asking permission, or paying a small fee to upload films onto their site. Two years ago this listserv spent considerable time arguing about the validity of Ken Goldsmith's (UBU's creator) tactics. If you backtrack in the Frameworks archive you can follow that thread. Everything that was said then still applies today. Many of the responses supported the case you are making now. Obviously I was opposed.
Don't close the library, don't prohibit access but do buy the books.
> "good news"?
> not for anybody who wants to see one of these movies, read an essay or listen to some sound who doesn't live in a major urban centre or have access to a museum. Maybe the copyright is an issue, but they made work available that often isn't readily accessible, and that counts for something.
> Bottom line is that regardless of anything, it's a resource and a library, and I've never been one for prohibiting access and closing libraries...
> On 14/10/2010, at 7:29 AM, Beverly O'Neill wrote:
>> Ah, this is such good news. I will refrain from posting a screed about that site. A Google search offers a number of condolences to Ken Goldsmith, UBU's founder. One writer wondered if the anniversary of John Lennon's death and the simultaneous hacking of UBU had anything in common.
>> So thrilled!
>> Beverly O'Neill
>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Shane Christian Eason wrote:
>>> So...yeah...um...apparently UBU is offline! Hacked!
>>> Considering what has been discussed in the past regarding this website,
>>> does anyone want to comment on this? Additional information? Very odd,
>>> considering I was on the site this past weekend. Although, my iPhone App
>>> for WFMU UbuWeb Radio continues to work.
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