Re: [Frameworks] found footage structural films

From: Jonathan Walley (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Sep 12 2010 - 14:28:59 PDT

Hello Albert,

Film in which there appear (etc.) by George Landow. There is at least
one other film I can think of by him that uses found footage - it's
the one that includes "blooper reel" footage of a newscaster - any
help, here. And I think What's Wrong With This Picture has a complete
educational film in it. As to whether or not these count as
structural, well... (for instance, the descriptions of Landow's films
in the Filmmakers' Coop catalog identify some of them as "structural,"
but several others as comedies, diary films, etc.). Which brings up
the next issue...

Insofar as we can agree that there was/is such a thing as "structural
film," it seems fine to designate a sub-category of "found footage
structural film." Of course you know that SItney's original definition
included "rephotography off the screen," which suggests found footage
would be ideal for structural film (this is what Tom, Tom... does).
But not many filmmakers of the period accepted Sitney's designation,
and his conception of the "movement" was always rather vague. Since I
don't think Sitney ever included Rimmer in any of his essays on the
subject, I assume you have a different set of standards in mind that
Sitney. I'd be interested to hear what these are. While we may not
agree with Sitney that a "cinema of structure" "suddenly" emerged, I
think we can agree that something changed in the mid-sixties in
experimental film culture. "Structural film" denotes that shift, but
what exactly that shift was is up for debate.

Hope this helps,

On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:09 PM, albert alcoz wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm writing a dissertation about experimental cinema
> and I have been doing a research about structural films that uses
> found footage.
> Some of the films i have found are:
> Eureka by Ernie Gehr, Tom Tom the Piper's Son by Ken Jacobs and
> Variations on a Cellophane Wrapper by David Rimer.
> Can someone add some other films?
> Is it right to talk about them as "found footage structural films"?
> Does it make any sense?
> Thanks,
> Albert Alcoz
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