Re: Dialogues between film and digital

From: Mark Toscano (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Feb 04 2010 - 09:40:17 PST

Fred Worden's brilliant and hilarious video 'Amongst the Persuaded' (2004) is, among other things, all about his uncertainty about what it is to make movies on digital video versus film.

Bill Brand made some films that combined optical printing with computer generated travelling mattes, a very unusual aesthetic. Works in the Field (1978) and Split Decision (1979)

Michael Robinson's And We All Shine On (2006) treats a filmed landscape and a computer generated landscape in certain terms.

You could look at certain flicker films as, in a sense, breaking down film into binary digits of on/off, especially Arnulf Rainer by Kubelka.

Many of John Whitney's computer generated films (beginning in 1967 with Hommage to Rameau) used monochrome computer animated, optical printed with color filters and occasional changes of speed to create the final films, which are ultimately hybrids of the two forms (though they were finalized in film). Might be not interesting enough an interaction of the two for you, though. (Other main titles in this vein are Permutations (1968), Matrix (1970), Matrix III (1972), and Arabesque (1975))

Ken Jacobs has been making dozens of pieces in the past several years that would be well worth considering. There are digital "animations" of stereoscopic still photos, digital manipulations of early film footage, digital manipulations of his own earlier footage, and even pieces which attempt a sort of (visual) stereoization of nonstereo (non-3D) footage. I would contact him directly rather than try to suggest specific titles myself.

I'll try to think of some more...

Mark Toscano

--- On Thu, 2/4/10, Kim Knowles <email suppressed> wrote:

> From: Kim Knowles <email suppressed>
> Subject: [FRAMEWORKS] Dialogues between film and digital
> To: email suppressed
> Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 5:19 AM
> Dear all,
> Apologies for yet another question. This time
> I'm looking for experimental works that involve a
> dialogue between film and digital technology for a looped
> film programme at the Scottish Gallery of Modern Art.
> I'm thinking of films that go beyond simply shooting on
> film then transferring to digital, but rather where the two
> formats somehow comment on each other, such as Shambhavi
> Kaul's 'Scene 32' that screened at Rotterdam
> this week, and Thorsten Fleisch's 'Wound Film'.
> Any suggestions would, as ever, be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Kim
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