From: Bryan Konefsky (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Dec 01 2009 - 09:48:00 PST
Bart, thanks so much for your "vote of confidence" for our
Experiments in Cinema event. Umm, I must say that this is
one of the most ridiculous threads I have ever seen on
Frameworks. MO, if you have ever adjudicated a festival
with many, many submissions, or, perhaps if you have ever
been a professor reading so many typed vs. hand written
papsers you would understand our interest in typed
submissions. However, for you and anyone else who is
having difficulty negotiating the technology, do practice
your penmanship and submit a hand written submission form
- Please note that we have never rejected an entry because
it was hand written (and I doubt ANY festival has rejected
for these reasons)... The "rules and regs" are established
at a festival to make our lives simpler, so that we can
move QUICKLY beyond the processing phase and get to the
"good stuff" - WATCHING YOUR SUBMISSIONS.
Please note however, that if you feel that submitting to
festivals is a waste of time - I can offer many, many
suggestions for how you might use your time in better
ways.
respectfully,
Bryan Konefsky, Visualiste
Lecturer, Dept. of Cinematic Arts, University of New
Mexico
Artistic Director, Experiments in Cinema
Vice President, Basement Films
Advisory Board, Ann Arbor Film Festival
"As the spirit wanes the form appears." - Charles Bukowski
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:38:10 -0800
>From: Myron Ort <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Experiments in Cinema V5.1 still seeking
>submissions
>
> Do you think I can blatantly ignore the "must be typed"
>command and
> just fill out the forms and send them in?
>
> What do you think their reason for using that
>(condescending)
> language was? Do you think they are well meaning but
> just careless.
> What exactly is their problem, and what kind of
>recommendation does
> that imply to me.
>
> I am now thinking of all the filmmaking heroes who never
>bothered
> with festivals.....
>
> I would only want to be rejected by an outfit I
>respected , not one I
> thought lacked subtlety from the start.
>
> mo
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Bart Weiss wrote:
>
>> it is a good festival and worth your time and effort.
>> bart
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>>
>>> There is a difference in tone between: (MUST BE TYPED)
>>> and
>>> (Please type or print clearly, thank you)
>>>
>>> "MUST BE TYPED" suggests that there may be some
>>>technological
>>> reason, like insisting on using the "special pencil
>>>provided" or
>>> the machine will not read your application and will
>>>discard.
>>>
>>> I will not feel confident about filling anything in by
>>>hand on
>>> this entry form until I hear a statement from Bryan
>>>Konefsky ,
>>> Festival Director, that this will be acceptable or not
>>>in no
>>> uncertain terms.
>>>
>>> Otherwise I am not going to waste my time and/or money
>>>on this
>>> particular festival.
>>>
>>> Myron Ort
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bart Weiss wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't recall ever rejecting a submission for
>>>>handwriting
>>>> but it we want to get ahold of you and we can't read
>>>>your address
>>>> or email or phone number that could be a problem.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Allen Riley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I often wonder this myself. Do festival committees
>>>>>really
>>>>> reject submissions over things like this? If yes, is
>>>>>"something
>>>>> exploitative and sleazy" going on, or do they do it in
>>>>>the name
>>>>> of "narrowing" the entry pool? If they do it in the
>>>>>name of
>>>>> narrowing the entry pool, isn't that exploitative and
>>>>>sleazy?
>>>>> Why aren't festivals responsive to technical questions
>>>>>about
>>>>> their selections process like Myron's?
>>>>>
>>>>> Allen Riley
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I downloaded the entry form and printed it out. I had
>>>>>>two
>>>>>> films to submit. The entry forms specify (MUST BE
>>>>>>TYPED). This
>>>>>> is not convenient and I do not even know how I would do
>>>>>>that.
>>>>>> So I started to print very neatly, then I reconsidered,
>>>>>>what if
>>>>>> these guys are jerks and will keep my money and my
>>>>>>submission
>>>>>> dvds and disregard my entry because I didn't put this
>>>>>>form in
>>>>>> a typewriter and hand printed instead. Generally I get a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> feeling from most "film festivals" that something
>>>>>>exploitative
>>>>>> and sleezy is going on anyway. So I am just going to
>>>>>>forget
>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Later,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Myron Ort
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Bryan Konefsky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all - our submission deadline is quickly approaching
>>>>>>>- See
>>>>>>> below - our postmark deadline is December 10-ish... let
>>>>>>>us
>>>>>>> know if you might need a few extra days for submissions
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>> with a hefty bribe (kidding) I'm sure we can accomodate!
>>>>>>> all the best,
>>>>>>> bryan konefsky
>>>>>>> festival director
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Experiments in Cinema V5.1 (a Basement Films production
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>> collaboration with UNM’s Department of Cinematic Arts)
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>> currently seeking submissions for our 5th annual
>>>>>>>celebration
>>>>>>> of international, cinematic experimentation. This year’s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> festival will take place in Albuquerque April 15-18,
>>>>>>>2010. We
>>>>>>> encourage all moving image artists creating unembedded,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> undependent, underground, experimental, personal, and
>>>>>>>wildly
>>>>>>> imaginative media to submit to our festival (postmark
>>>>>>>deadline
>>>>>>> for submissions is December 10, 2009… though if
>>>>>>>materials are
>>>>>>> dated a day or two later we will happily accept your
>>>>>>>work for
>>>>>>> consideration!!). See www.basementfilms.org and click in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Experiments in Cinema V5.1 for details.
>>>>>>> Contact festival director Bryan Konefsky at bryank (at)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> unm.edu for more information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> _
>>>>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>>>>> <email suppressed>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>
>>>> Bart Weiss
>>>>
>>>> the VideoFest is coming Nov 5-9
>>>> go to videofest.org for more info
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>
>>>> <Default copy.png>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>><email suppressed>.
>>
>> Bart Weiss
>>
>> the VideoFest is coming Nov 5-9
>> go to videofest.org for more info
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>><email suppressed>.
>>
>> <Default copy.png>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>><email suppressed>.
>>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
><email suppressed>.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:50:53 -0800
>From: Flick Harrison <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Experiments in Cinema V5.1 still seeking
>submissions
>
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> I open and fill in PDF's in Photoshop, or Illustrator.
> The latter is
> easier, 'cos you have less clicking to do after you fill
>each line
> with text. In PS you have to click a different tool,
>then back on
> text, or else it clears your text... very annoying.
>
> But Illustrator is an easy way to fill in PDF forms.
>
> Either way, you have to open the document a couple
>times, i.e. once
> per page, and save as whatever1, whatever2, etc. You
>can also cut and
> paste your blurb and other BS into the form, instead of
>writing by hand.
>
> Cutting and pasting to word, on the other hand, ensures
>a mess, or a
> waste of time formatting to look nice - and won't they
>hate it even if
> you format it nice, if it's not the same as every other
>form...
>
> I agree, not everyone has illustrator (nor should they),
>though I
> assume the free GIMP will do the same job.
>
> But come on, you grumpy old farts, if you take offence
>at the
> instructions on a form, it MIGHT be a sign of creeping
>senility.
>
> "Those darn forms in my day and age never had to be no
>typed... who do
> these things think they is, IBM or sump'n?"
>
> HA HA HA HA HA...
>
> -Flick
> (MUST BE TYPED)
>
> * FLICK's WEBSITE & BLOG: http://www.flickharrison.com
> * FACEBOOK
>http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=860700553
> * MYSPACE: http://myspace.com/flickharrison
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
><email suppressed>.
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>=
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>it MIGHT be a =
> sign of creeping
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> my day and age never had to be no typed... who do these
>things think =
> they is, IBM or sump'n?"</div><div><br></div><div>HA HA
>HA HA =
> HA...</div><div><br></div><div>-Flick</div><div>(MUST BE
>=
> TYPED)</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
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> font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
>line-height: normal; =
> orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
>white-space: normal; =
> widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
>-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
> -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
> -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;
>-webkit-text-size-adjust: =
> auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div
>style=3D"word-wrap: =
> break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
>-webkit-line-break: =
> after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
>font-family: =
> Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal;
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> font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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> orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
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>style=3D"word-wrap: =
> break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
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>BLOG:<span =
> class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a =
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> href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3D860700553">http://www.fac=
> ebook.com/profile.php?id=3D860700553</a> </div><div><b>*
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>
> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:00:11 -0800
>From: Huckleberry Lain <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Experiments in Cinema V5.1 still seeking
>submissions
>
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> Oh, hey. I don't think it was meant at all to be
>disrespectful,
> condecending or anything of that type. I just think it
>was supposed to mak=
> e
> things legible. Just like when forms say to "please
>print" or "all caps".
> I actually wrote mine in because there was a weird
>glitch in the .pdf file
> where the title would just keep deleting. I got a
>confirmation from them
> via email with no problems.
> I don't think it's any kind of an issue, but I'm sure
>they've had some craz=
> y
> entries where someone scribbled the title or they messed
>up the title in th=
> e
> program because of strange handwriting and maybe the
>artist got angry.
> Huck
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Myron Ort
><email suppressed> wrote:
>
>> Do you think I can blatantly ignore the "must be typed"
>>command and just
>> fill out the forms and send them in?
>>
>> What do you think their reason for using that
>>(condescending) language wa=
> s?
>> Do you think they are well meaning but just careless.
>>What exactly is
>> their problem, and what kind of recommendation does that
>>imply to me.
>>
>> I am now thinking of all the filmmaking heroes who never
>>bothered with
>> festivals.....
>>
>> I would only want to be rejected by an outfit I
>>respected , not one I
>> thought lacked subtlety from the start.
>>
>> mo
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Bart Weiss wrote:
>>
>> it is a good festival and worth your time and effort.
>>> bart
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a difference in tone between: (MUST BE TYPED)
>>> and (Please
>>>> type or print clearly, thank you)
>>>>
>>>> "MUST BE TYPED" suggests that there may be some
>>>>technological reason,
>>>> like insisting on using the "special pencil provided" or
>>>>the machine wi=
> ll
>>>> not read your application and will discard.
>>>>
>>>> I will not feel confident about filling anything in by
>>>>hand on this ent=
> ry
>>>> form until I hear a statement from Bryan Konefsky ,
>>>>Festival Director, =
> that
>>>> this will be acceptable or not in no uncertain terms.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise I am not going to waste my time and/or money
>>>>on this particul=
> ar
>>>> festival.
>>>>
>>>> Myron Ort
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bart Weiss wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't recall ever rejecting a submission for
>>>>handwriting
>>>>> but it we want to get ahold of you and we can't read
>>>>>your address or
>>>>> email or phone number that could be a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Allen Riley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I often wonder this myself. Do festival committees
>>>>>really reject
>>>>>> submissions over things like this? If yes, is
>>>>>>"something exploitativ=
> e and
>>>>>> sleazy" going on, or do they do it in the name of
>>>>>>"narrowing" the ent=
> ry
>>>>>> pool? If they do it in the name of narrowing the entry
>>>>>>pool, isn't t=
> hat
>>>>>> exploitative and sleazy? Why aren't festivals
>>>>>>responsive to technica=
> l
>>>>>> questions about their selections process like Myron's?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allen Riley
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I downloaded the entry form and printed it out. I had
>>>>>>two films to
>>>>>>> submit. The entry forms specify (MUST BE TYPED). This
>>>>>>>is not conven=
> ient and
>>>>>>> I do not even know how I would do that. So I started to
>>>>>>>print very n=
> eatly,
>>>>>>> then I reconsidered, what if these guys are jerks and
>>>>>>>will keep my m=
> oney and
>>>>>>> my submission dvds and disregard my entry because I
>>>>>>>didn't put this=
> form in
>>>>>>> a typewriter and hand printed instead. Generally I get a
>>>>>>>feeling fro=
> m most
>>>>>>> "film festivals" that something exploitative and sleezy
>>>>>>>is going on =
> anyway.
>>>>>>> So I am just going to forget about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Myron Ort
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Bryan Konefsky wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all - our submission deadline is quickly approaching
>>>>>>>- See below=
> -
>>>>>>>> our postmark deadline is December 10-ish... let us know
>>>>>>>>if you migh=
> t need a
>>>>>>>> few extra days for submissions and with a hefty bribe
>>>>>>>>(kidding) I'm=
> sure we
>>>>>>>> can accomodate!
>>>>>>>> all the best,
>>>>>>>> bryan konefsky
>>>>>>>> festival director
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Experiments in Cinema V5.1 (a Basement Films production
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>> collaboration with UNM=92s Department of Cinematic Arts)
>>>>>>>>is current=
> ly seeking
>>>>>>>> submissions for our 5th annual celebration of
>>>>>>>>international, cinema=
> tic
>>>>>>>> experimentation. This year=92s festival will take place
>>>>>>>>in Albuquer=
> que April
>>>>>>>> 15-18, 2010. We encourage all moving image artists
>>>>>>>>creating unembe=
> dded,
>>>>>>>> undependent, underground, experimental, personal, and
>>>>>>>>wildly imagin=
> ative
>>>>>>>> media to submit to our festival (postmark deadline for
>>>>>>>>submissions =
> is
>>>>>>>> December 10, 2009=85 though if materials are dated a day
>>>>>>>>or two lat=
> er we will
>>>>>>>> happily accept your work for consideration!!). See
>>>>>>>> www.basementfilms.org and click in Experiments in Cinema
>>>>>>>>V5.1 for
>>>>>>>> details.
>>>>>>>> Contact festival director Bryan Konefsky at bryank (at)
>>>>>>>>unm.edu for
>>>>>>>> more information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>>>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bart Weiss
>>>>>
>>>>> the VideoFest is coming Nov 5-9
>>>>> go to videofest.org for more info
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>>
>>>>> <Default copy.png>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>>><email suppressed>.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bart Weiss
>>>
>>> the VideoFest is coming Nov 5-9
>>> go to videofest.org for more info
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>><email suppressed>.
>>>
>>> <Default copy.png>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>>><email suppressed>.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
>><email suppressed>.
>>
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> Oh, hey.=A0 I don't think it was meant at all to be
>disrespectful, cond=
> ecending or anything of that type.=A0 I just think it
>was supposed to make =
> things legible.=A0 Just like when forms say to
>"please print" or =
> "all caps".=A0 I actually wrote mine in
>because there was a weird=
> glitch in the .pdf file where the title would just keep
>deleting.=A0 I got=
> a confirmation from them via email with no problems.<br>
> I don't think it's any kind of an issue, but
>I'm sure they'=
> ve had some crazy entries where someone scribbled the
>title or they messed =
> up the title in the program because of strange
>handwriting and maybe the ar=
> tist got angry.<br>
> Huck<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 30,
>2009 at 8:38 PM, Myr=
> on Ort <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a
>href=3D"mailto:email suppressed">(address suppressed)=
> et</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote
>class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bord=
> er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt
>0pt 0.8ex; padding-l=
> eft: 1ex;">
> Do you think I can blatantly ignore the "must be
>typed" command a=
> nd just fill out the forms and send them in?<br>
> <br>
> What do you think their reason for using that
>(condescending) language was?=
> =A0Do you think they are well meaning but =A0just
>careless. What exactly i=
> s their problem, and what kind of recommendation does
>that imply to me.<br>
>
> <br>
> I am now thinking of all the filmmaking heroes who never
>bothered with fest=
> ivals.....<br>
> <br>
> I would only want to be rejected by an outfit I
>respected , not one I thoug=
> ht lacked subtlety from the start.<br><font
>color=3D"#888888">
> <br>
> mo</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Bart Weiss wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:
>1px solid rgb(204, =
> 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
>1ex;">
> it is a good festival and worth your time and
>effort.<br>
> bart<br>
> <br>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Myron Ort wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:
>1px solid rgb(204, =
> 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
>1ex;">
> There is a difference in tone between: =A0(MUST BE
>TYPED) =A0and =A0(Please=
> type or print clearly, thank you)<br>
> <br>
> "MUST BE TYPED" =A0suggests that there may be
>some technological =
> reason, like insisting on using the "special pencil
>provided" or =
> the machine will not read your application and will
>discard.<br>
> <br>
> I will not feel confident about filling anything in by
>hand on this entry f=
> orm until I hear a statement from Bryan Konefsky ,
>Festival Director, =A0th=
> at this will be acceptable =A0or not in no uncertain
>terms.<br>
> <br>
> Otherwise I am not going to waste my time and/or money
>on this particular f=
> estival.<br>
> <br>
> Myron Ort<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bart Weiss wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:
>1px solid rgb(204, =
> 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
>1ex;">
> I don't recall ever rejecting a submission for
>handwriting<br>
> but it we want to get ahold of you and we can't read
>your address or em=
> ail or phone number =A0that could be a problem.<br>
> <br>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Allen Riley wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:
>1px solid rgb(204, =
> 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
>1ex;">
> I often wonder this myself. =A0Do festival committees
>really reject submiss=
> ions over things like this? =A0If yes, is
>"something exploitative and =
> sleazy" going on, or do they do it in the name of
>"narrowing"=
> ; the entry pool? =A0If they do it in the name of
>narrowing the entry pool,=
> isn't that exploitative and sleazy? =A0Why
>aren't festivals respon=
> sive to technical questions about their selections
>process like Myron's=
> ?<br>
>
> <br>
> Allen Riley<br>
> <br>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Myron Ort wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:
>1px solid rgb(204, =
> 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
>1ex;">
> I downloaded the entry form and printed it out. =A0I had
>two films to submi=
> t. =A0The entry forms specify (MUST BE TYPED). This is
>not convenient and I=
> do not even know how I would do that. So I started to
>print very neatly, t=
> hen I reconsidered, what if these guys are jerks and
>will keep my money and=
> my submission dvds =A0and disregard my entry because I
>didn't put this=
> form in a typewriter and hand printed instead. Generally
>I get a feeling f=
> rom most "film festivals" that something
>exploitative and sleezy =
> is going on anyway. =A0So I am just going to forget
>about it.<br>
>
> <br>
> Later,<br>
> <br>
> Myron Ort<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Bryan Konefsky wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:
>1px solid rgb(204, =
> 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
>1ex;">
> Hi all - our submission deadline is quickly approaching
>- See below - our p=
> ostmark deadline is December 10-ish... let us know if
>you might need a few =
> extra days for submissions and with a hefty bribe
>(kidding) I'm sure we=
> can accomodate!<br>
>
> all the best,<br>
> bryan konefsky<br>
> festival director<br>
> <br>
> Experiments in Cinema V5.1 (a Basement Films production
>in collaboration wi=
> th UNM=92s Department of Cinematic Arts) is currently
>seeking submissions f=
> or our 5th annual celebration of international,
>cinematic experimentation. =
> This year=92s festival will take place in Albuquerque
>April 15-18, 2010. =
> =A0We encourage all moving image artists creating
>unembedded, undependent, =
> underground, experimental, personal, and wildly
>imaginative media to submit=
> to our festival (postmark deadline for submissions is
>December 10, 2009=85=
> though if materials are dated a day or two later we will
>happily accept yo=
> ur work for consideration!!). See <a
>href=3D"http://www.basementfilms.org" =
> target=3D"_blank">www.basementfilms.org</a> and click in
>Experiments in Cin=
> ema V5.1 for details.<br>
>
> Contact festival director Bryan Konefsky at bryank (at)
><a href=3D"http://u=
> nm.edu" target=3D"_blank">unm.edu</a> for more
>information.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
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>target=3D"_blank">email suppressed</a>>.<br>
> <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> <br>
> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
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> <br>
> <br>
> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
> email suppressed"
>target=3D"_blank">email suppressed</a>>.<br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> Bart Weiss<br>
> <br>
> the VideoFest is coming Nov 5-9<br>
> go to <a href=3D"http://videofest.org"
>target=3D"_blank">videofest.org</a> =
> for more info<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
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> <br>
> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
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> <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> <br>
> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
> email suppressed"
>target=3D"_blank">email suppressed</a>>.<br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> Bart Weiss<br>
> <br>
> the VideoFest is coming Nov 5-9<br>
> go to <a href=3D"http://videofest.org"
>target=3D"_blank">videofest.org</a> =
> for more info<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
> email suppressed"
>target=3D"_blank">email suppressed</a>>.<br>
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>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
> email suppressed"
>target=3D"_blank">email suppressed</a>>.<br>
> <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> <br>
> __________________________________________________________________<br>
>For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a
>href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
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>target=3D"_blank">email suppressed</a>>.<br>
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> End of FRAMEWORKS Digest - 30 Nov 2009 to 1 Dec 2009 -
>Special issue (#2009-681)
> ********************************************************************************
Bryan Konefsky, Visualiste
Lecturer, Dept. of Cinematic Arts, University of New
Mexico
Artistic Director, Experiments in Cinema
Vice President, Basement Films
Advisory Board, Ann Arbor Film Festival
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"As the spirit wanes the form appears." - Charles Bukowski
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