Re: Gregory Markopoulos and colour

From: Jerry Tartaglia (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Sep 26 2009 - 18:53:18 PDT


Hm, this is not only becoming confusing, but also less appetizing. The image
of the California Cheeseburger in the first example clearly looks like it's
red, white, pink, and black. Yet the text claims that this is not what we
see. The text claims that we see "red (tomato), brown (hamburger), green
(lettuce), yellow (cheese), near white (bun), and black (background). "

Should I believe the text or my eyes?

Ok - I'll concede that perhaps because the Land Experiment was conducted
with projected light rather than a digital repro, it may have looked better
than the example on this webpage.

But Eleni's original question about color really has little to do with
Cheeseburgers, Ed Land, or color theory. I think it is about the emotional
use of color, it's evocative power expressed through G.M's editing style.
Ming Green (1966) brings to life the otherwise somnambulant color of his
apartment. And there's the male flesh in Swain (and Illiac Passion.) The
former, if I recall correctly is offset on brilliant white fabric as the
young man frees himself from hetero domination.

But then, this kind of murky analysis does little to help us watch film as
if it is only light.

ps - Cheeseburgers, in this part of the world are served with onions and
mustard; not lettuce and tomatoes.

Jerry Tartaglia
http://www.jerry501.com

"To hear with eyes belongs to love's fine wit."(Sonnet 23)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Myron Ort" <email suppressed>
To: <email suppressed>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Gregory Markopoulos and colour

> Perhaps a slightly better account:
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> http://www.greatreality.com/Color2Color.htm
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> Here is an interesting and marginally relevant link:
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> http://people.msoe.edu/~taylor/eisl/land.htm
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> I always thought those demonstrations were fascinating ever since reading
> about them in Scientific American a few years back.
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> mo
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> On Sep 26, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Jerry Tartaglia wrote:
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>> Oh.... I think I get it now. Markopoulos made films in black and white
>> with varying degrees of saturation.
>>
>>
>> Jerry Tartaglia
>> http://www.jerry501.com
>>
>> "To hear with eyes belongs to love's fine wit."(Sonnet 23)
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myron Ort" <email suppressed>
>> To: <email suppressed>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Gregory Markopoulos and colour
>>
>>
>>> Black and White are completely unsaturated versions of Ming Green.
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>>> On Sep 26, 2009, at 4:10 PM, Jerry Tartaglia wrote:
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>>>> What happened to Ming Green?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Tartaglia
>>>> http://www.jerry501.com
>>>>
>>>> "To hear with eyes belongs to love's fine wit."(Sonnet 23)
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filippou, Eleni"
>>>> <email suppressed>
>>>> To: <email suppressed>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Gregory Markopoulos and colour
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am doing my PhD research on Gregory Markopoulos' work. I am
>>>>> writing now a chapter about his use of colour. Markopoulos uses
>>>>> mainly three colours, black, white and red. I found out that black,
>>>>> white and red is a monochromatic triad. Is anyone knows what
>>>>> monochromatic triad mean? Any other comments on Markopoulos and
>>>>> colour would be very helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eleni Filippou
>>>>>
>>>>>
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