From: Lundgren (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Aug 06 2009 - 09:21:47 PDT
Fred Davidson seemed to think I liked Fox. I thought that was funny. On some
level that was Fox all over again, distorting the truth.
On the other hand it might just have been a further spin (somebody gotta
have got the irony in my first post).
Now your post naturally isn't humorous, so I won't treat it like that.
Now, that said, you're analysis is missing the most important thing.
Let's say a very rich man bought Fox and changed their whole system around.
Starting with some serious journalism etc.
Do you think the problem would disappear?
It didn't begin with Fox. It won't end with Fox.
You'll end up fighting wind mills if you fight Fox. Not that Fox isn't A
ENEMY. It's just not THE ENEMY.
And if you kill one, there's plenty more.
Fox is just an example of market pragmatism. It's all about the money. If
the truth would give more profit, they'd tell the truth.
The world didn't get fucked up 1996. Look closer... Look further.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Camper" <email suppressed>
To: <email suppressed>
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Murdoch's Falsehoods [Was: Kuchar/McDowell screen on Fox News!]
> Quoting Lundgren <email suppressed>:
>> It's funny. Because at first I was laughing at Fox. But now there's a
>> whole bunch of people to laugh at. Thx! :)
> If you mean people like Tony and Gregg, then you have serious problems.
> Did you read my comments on the Iraq war? I think there's a good case to
> be made that no Fox News, no Iraq war. That means hundreds of thousands
> of people already killed could still be alive, since vastly more people
> were killed in the war and its aftermath than had ever been killed by
> Saddam Hussein.
> The problem is that most people in the US are not as deeply intelligent
> as you are. They actually let their views be swayed by morons. We learned
> this yet again in the "culture wars" in the late 80s and early 90s, when
> a few idiotic attacks on a few artists whose work had been funded by the
> National Endowment for the Arts led to the NEA stopping the funding of
> individual artists, and having their budget cut. Just because you can see
> through Fox and realize it is nonsense doesn't mean that others also do.
> You appear to live in some postmodern ether in which nothing means
> anything. Perhaps you don't consider human lives to have any reality, or
> value, either. I disagree.
> Fred Camper
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