From: D. Mark Andrews (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Jan 08 2009 - 07:47:45 PST
Susana,
An even cheaper option would be to buy a Bolex 8mm camera, aka Regular 8 (R8). I know your initial post mentioned 16mm, but after reading this thread and noticing you plan to edit digitally I would think an 8mm meet your requirements unless a 16mm is a requirement for the project. My favorites are the Bolex B8L on the low end ($25.00 with a lens or two or eBay) and the Bolex D8L ($80.00 with a lens or two on eBay). You get the same Bolex quality and workmanship as the 16mm and they almost always work after sitting for years. A full service costs $150.00 US and $300.00 if you have to rebuild the entire camera including a new motor. Super 8 may work as well, but I'll let the S8 evangelists advise you on them, I think they are way over rated.
Also, it is a good idea to have more than one camera to shoot. If your budget is tight you will have some difficulty finding two 16mm cameras on the cheap. For about $100 (maybe as low as $50.00) and two weeks of bidding on eBay you can have two Bolex 8mm cameras, three lenses (standard, wide, tele), and a pistol grip. A decent setup for the money.
I'll post more on which cameras to look for and how to evaluate if you are interested in this route.
Mark
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From: Nicky Hamlyn [mailto:email suppressed]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:18 AM
To: email suppressed
Subject: Re: More ino please to help focus answers you get
Your cheapest option would be a non-reflex Bolex. Quite a few on ebay.
If you are filming skies and seas you can set the lens to infinity and not
worry about focus.
Nicky Hamlyn.
Susana de Sousa Dias writes:
>> "Here are some questions for you to pick from and answer.
>> Then, any further suggestions people make can be of more probable help,
>> especially regarding lenses and filters."
>
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> Actually, I want to shoot mainly skies and the sea. It's for a non-narrative
> film I am making at the moment.
>
> I want to transmit an abstract idea of storm. I intend to modify speeds
> (either increasing or decreasing) in final cut.
>
> I am in Portugal, so even in winter the days are quite bright in spite of
> the clouds.
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> I think I will shoot over several weekends - I am going to the seaside, to
> a place which is known for being usually cloudy and windy.
>
> The problem is less the rolls than the price for the camera. As rental fees
> are quite high in Portugal I am thinking in buying a camera maybe on e-bay.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions I received until now!
>
>
> Susana de Sousa Dias
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>> At what sort of landscape will you point your camera?
>>
>> Are you, at this stage, collecting footage now, you'll figure out how to
>> use i later?
>>
>> Have a general or specific film theme / mood / or need in mind?
>>
>> Will it be a story or non-narrative movie?
>>
>> What sort of weather will you shoot in? Snow? Sunny days? Summer?
>>
>> Are you after particular sorts of action? (blowing trees, scudding clouds,
>> etc.)
>>
>> Will you need any close-ups of things - insects, leaves,
>>
>> Budget? How many rolls or minutes do you have money for?
>>
>> Will you shoot this all in a short time (say, on holiday) or over a long
>> time whenever "good" moments come along?
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey Paull
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>> On Wed 07/01/09 12:17 , Susana de Sousa Dias (address suppressed):
>> > Dear Frameworkers,
>> > I need some advice about shooting in 16mm b&w. I want to shoot mainly
>> > landscapes and cloudy skies (no need for sync sound). Which camera,
>> > which lenses and what sort of film stock would you recommend?
>> > Thanks
>> > Susana de Sousa Dias
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