From: Jim Carlile (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Aug 20 2008 - 12:05:52 PDT

In a message dated 8/20/2008 7:58:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
email suppressed writes:

On Aug 20, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Jim Carlile wrote:

how about a model that is based around working, rather than organizing, or
meeting, or creating an archive, or all the other secretarial tasks that many
people seem to prefer to the real thing.

What the heck does that mean: "working"?

Jim Carlile is great on attitude and abstract notions. But Jim, please can
you please name one, two, or three current institutions that meet your
rigorous standards? That would sure make it easier to understand your rhetoric,
which seems to be based on slogans, not reality.


Working means doing the craft. I can't name any institution, because there
aren't any-- that's my point. They're all about networking, and "archives" and
a culture-vulture mentality that sits around and does its "connoisseur"
Fact is, FAF was originally founded to actually do things, not exist for the
sake of being an organization with all sorts of "aspects," or whatever they
call them. This is the bane of the age.


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