From: Adam Hyman (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Aug 19 2008 - 23:16:38 PDT
Jeez, I didnąt actually mean that the problem was that artists might have
taken over, or that any were actually incompetent.
My point was that in order for an organization like that to stay afloat, it
actually needs good business people & grant writers.
Jim, I am utterly stumped by your blame of łarchivists, the scholar
squirrels, and the business types˛ - if anything, it was probably a lack of
them in proportion to the number of people wanting to make use of the
resources. One needs staff to run a place like that, so that artists can
spend their time creating. I really have no idea where your bringing up
archivists and scholars comes from at all.
On 8/19/08 4:21 PM, "Jim Carlile" <email suppressed> wrote:
> In a message dated 8/19/2008 3:41:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> email suppressed writes:
>> I can't explain it (because I don't know) but it is incorrect to assume (in
>> this case) that incompetent artists sank FAF. Indeed it was founded by
>> artists in the mid-70s but it has long been under the leadership of people
>> of solidly administrative minds (staff and board); no way did artists "take
>> it over."
> I agree- I certainly don't blame the artists or craftsman, who were the sole
> reason why FAF was started in the first place. I think it's cynical for anyone
> to blame the "artists" for being inept. That's always the pretext for a
> No, this is the kind of thing that happens nowadays. It's a racket. The
> culture vulture mediocrities always end up taking over and ruining things--
> you see this all the time with college radio stations-- the bureaucrat-money
> minded run in to 'save' a cool thing, and end up dismantling it somehow,
> usually piously.
> Some of them get "fees" for this destruction, too. And it makes them feel
> cool, -- just like the "artists." They're arty, too.
> FAF was neat because it was artist-craftsman oriented. But clearly, the
> archivists, the scholar squirrels, and the business types glommed onto it for
> their own purposes, and eliminated its raison d'etre. Sad sad sad.
> But hey, that FAF archive that's been built up over the many years-- maybe
> they can market it!... to save it! Plainly, that's what this is all-- and
> always is-- about.
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