Re: The Return of Ignorance?

From: Freya (email suppressed)
Date: Tue May 13 2008 - 01:00:30 PDT

Wow gang, you have all been really busy here!

Theres lots I would love to say but I have very little
time right now as you might expect, however I just
wanted to say that diversity is always a wonderful
thing to have! Negative stocks, Video, Kodachrome,
Ektachrome, acrylic ink, oil paints, acrylic paint,
nail varnish, etc, etc, etc, whatever they are, they
all can have wonderful properties and you can make
magic with them all. It's just about being positive
and finding those wonderful things, and as
experimental filmmakers I think you should experiment
with lots of things and try and find the magic of all
of them. If there is more Kodachrome for a while, then
why not grab some and have some fun with it.

I think it's okay to have a rigid process to
experiment with or a rigid ideology, as long as you
don't impose it on others, or are not putting down
those who are open to possibilities. When people say
there is one true way and become really prescriptive
and even shut people out, well what is it that Stan
Brakhage said, something like "it is like a black
poison raining down upon the scene...".

The history of experimental film in america has a long
history of lots of different kinds of people doing
lots of different kinds of things and of being really
open to all that different stuff. Stan Brakhage,
Kenneth Anger, Maya Deren, Jack Smith, Tony Conrad and
many more very obvious examples, all doing very
different things in the same environment. None of them
is the right way, or perhaps they all are. I wouldn't
want to decide that one of them was right and to edit
out the others, I would feel poorer for it.

Whats more, if you close down on all the possibilities
you start to create an exclusionary environment and
before you know it you will have transformed that
environment into a conservative scene with limited
diversity both in expression and people. You will have
created a tiny little art genre that is an adjunct to
something more meaningful and it will be a terrible
and massive undertaking for those who might wish to
try and make things more open again.

If you choose diversity in all the things in your
world, you will be all the more richer for it, and
that includes filmstocks and techniques!

Enjoy and be happy about whatever it is you are doing
and be supportive of all the other possibilities too!

Must go now!



--- Cari Machet <email suppressed> wrote:

> yes well 'brain' dysfunction and hormonal imbalance
> occurs in all sectors of
> the human and other animal and plant populations -
> geologic too
> nature forgets some essential ingredients sometimes
> in it's 'making'
> it is sad but sometimes interesting - in this case
> though more in the
> sad/boring
> c
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Jim Carlile
> <email suppressed> wrote:
> > This is exactly what I'm talking about. It's
> perfect. You've proved my
> > point about the arrogance and muddleheadedness
> that surrounds so many topics
> > like this.
> >
> > My favorite claim was the contention that
> experimental film making has an
> > ideology that embraces openness in technique.
> >
> > I'm still laughing about that one-- anyone with a
> knowledge of the history
> > of this art would know that rigid ideology and
> tight strictures has been a
> > hallmark of many film makers over the years. And
> there's nothing wrong with
> > that.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/12/2008 7:11:26 P.M. Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> > email suppressed writes:
> >
> > If Mr. X could read his words with the crisp
> clarity of the
> > contemporary stocks he trumpets, perhaps a grain
> of insight might
> > enlighten his intellectual pallette of one's and
> zero's. Mama
> > obviously took his Kodachrome away, and he's still
> crying over
> > spilt celluloid.But were it not for his
> presumption, conceit, and
> > contradiction, the wealth of reasoned responses
> could not have
> > been shared.
> >
> > Frameworkers, you've done yourselves proud. You've
> responded with
> > all the rainbow resplendance that I've cherished
> through dozens
> > upons dozens of rolls of Kodachrome.
> >
> > Hail hail this golden thread and the decidedly
> non-magenta fabric
> > it has woven.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
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