Re: Lost, Destroyed, and Unmade Films - Cornell

From: Andy Ditzler (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Apr 05 2008 - 11:43:13 PDT

Hi Bruce,

I like that term "unmade" in this context - double meaning there.
Cornell's "Rose Hobart," for example, could be "East of Borneo" un-made.

It's been awhile since I've seen the scenario for Monsieur Phot, and I
don't have a copy at hand. This is making me want to read it again. I've
seen nothing that suggests he actually attempted to make it as a film -
but also don't remember anything in the scenario that suggested it was
only for paper. Isn't the main character someone involved with observing
people? I'm wondering now to what extent his later films (the ones
photographed by Burckhardt and Brakhage, as opposed to found by Cornell)
might themselves be a realization of ideas from Monsieur Phot.

Jeanne Liotta, who's on this list, has been involved with curating
programs of Cornell's early films and might know more about the history
of Monsieur Phot.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Checefsky" <email suppressed>
To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <email suppressed>
Cc: <email suppressed>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Lost, Destroyed, and Unmade Films

> Thanks, Andy. I've looked at Cornell's Monsieur Phot and considered
> making the film for over a year now
> (probably longer). After reading Pavle Levi's interesting article
> titled 'Doctor Hypnison and the Case of
> Written Cinema (October 166, Spring 2006), in which he describes a
> scenario by poet Monny de Boully as
> a 'paper movie', written never to be filmed, (Film critic Branko
> Vu&#269;i&#263;evi&#263;' wrote about this in his book titled
> Paper Movies), I believe this was likely the case with Cornell's
> Monsieur Phot. Andrew Lampert thought
> Cornell didn't attempt to make the film which makes sense from the
> research. But i still wonder if he
> wrote the scenario with the idea of making the film later, or did he
> published it as a 'paper film'. Have you
> read the scenario? what do you think?
> thanks bruce
> Joseph Cornell's "Monsieur Phot," a scenario for an unmade film,
> published 1936 in Julien Levy's book
> "Surrealism" and reprinted (I believe) in P. Adams Sitney's anthology
> titled "The Avant-Garde Film."
> Andy Ditzler
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Checefsky"
> <email suppressed>
> To: <email suppressed>
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:51 PM
> Subject: Lost, Destroyed, and Unmade Films
>> I'm looking for short film scenario's published in the 1930's that
>> were either never made into films, or
>> lost/destroyed (as films) during WWII. Any suggestions?
>> bruce

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