From: gyoungblood (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Feb 11 2007 - 06:02:50 PST
Thanks Ken. All very helpfull.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Bawcom" <email suppressed>
To: <email suppressed>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FRAMEWORKS] individualism in films
> I'm a film noir fan, and of course, individualism is what film noir is all
> about. For a modern film, "Memento" springs to mind. Classics, like "Out
> of the Past," and "D.O.A." are well known examples. Two underrated and
> lesser know favorites of mine are both film noir westerns, starring Robert
> Mitchum. They are "Pursued," and "Blood on the Moon." For modern sci fi, I
> can't think of better examples than "Twelve Monkeys," and "Blade Runner."
> I could go on and on, but you get the idea.
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> Ken B.
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> Quoting gyoungblood <email suppressed>:
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>> Thanks Jack. That's a very helpful list. You couldn't do better even if I
>> went into greater detail of what I'm looking for. If anyone can think of
>> other titles from the last decade, or classic beloved titles from any
>> era, please send them on.
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>> The thesis underlying this search is hardly original: namely, that
>> individualism works against the exercise of collective political will and
>> is, therefore, essential for social control in so-called democracies. My
>> contibution is to suggest that, given the current historically
>> unprecedented need for global collective action, individualist
>> socialization amounts to a crime against humanity. I have no time to
>> discuss this any further on Frameworks. I just want help in assembling a
>> list of those movies so that I can consign them, and would-be makers of
>> similar narratives, to imperialist hell. Thanks again...
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jack Sargeant
>> To: email suppressed
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FRAMEWORKS] individualism in films
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>> I think perhaps some more thorough / in-depth details of what you need
>> may help, but, in terms of what I think you want (all recent titles):
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>> Children of Men - one pregnant girl and an old lefty fight to save
>> humanity from dystopic end
>> V For Vendetta - one man starts a revolution against fascist government
>> thanks to inspiring pranks, interestingly the revolutionaries all adopt
>> his identity which may not help your thesis.
>> Borat - in the film Borat makes his country 'modern' having learned from
>> his trip to USA
>> The Queen - Blair saves royal family and Britain
>> The Departed - one man alone against organized crime
>> Shortbus - one nightclub and one woman's search for an orgasm suggest
>> that there is hope for the wider tragedies of modern world
>> Marie Antoinette - one woman takes on the weight of two nations and
>> parties then discovers responsibility at the end
>> Manderlay - one woman takes on the weight of history and slavery
>> Happy Feet - one penguin faces the ocean and international fishing
>> industries to save fish for penguins, interestingly he teaches the other
>> penguins the importance of collective action so this my not fit entirely,
>> but for 99% of the film he is the loner.
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>> God knows what this list says about my recent viewing habits, I promise
>> I also attend all the art house and avant garde screenings as well!
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>> am I the first person to write about Happy Feet and Borat on Frameworks?
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>> On 7 Feb 2007, at 06:01, gyoungblood wrote:
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>> Frameworkers,
>> I posted this request during the Christmas holiday and got only one
>> response. So, thinking that was not the best time to ask, I'm doing it
>> again now. I'm trying to assemble a list of feature films in which
>> collective problems are presented and resolved on the personal,
>> individual level. Of course that's 99.9% of all Hollywood films (Frank
>> Capra, "Casablanca," "The Insider" are examples). I'm looking for recent
>> titles, the more admired the better. Your input will be greatly
>> appreciated, and will contribute to my documentary project on the role of
>> industrial cinema in socialization and social control.
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>> Gene Youngblood
>> Department of Moving Image Arts
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