Re: individualism in films

From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Fri Feb 09 2007 - 13:06:49 PST


erasurhead

speaking of
saw a little interview w/ him recently
he said he was now only shooting in digital
called film a dinasour
said he would never go back to shooting in film

donnie darko
requiem for a dream
last days
demonlover
gummo
dogville

these films are about the afterfx of social control - need for control of
others
the pit(falls) of xing out a person/people - xing out urself

needless to say i geuss - that i think ur thesis is more than not logical

c

On 2/8/07, gyoungblood <email suppressed> wrote:
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> Thanks Jack. That's a very helpful list. You couldn't do better even if I
> went into greater detail of what I'm looking for. If anyone can think of
> other titles from the last decade, or classic beloved titles from any era,
> please send them on.
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> The thesis underlying this search is hardly original: namely, that
> individualism works against the exercise of collective political will and
> is, therefore, essential for social control in so-called democracies. My
> contibution is to suggest that, given the current historically unprecedented
> need for global collective action, individualist socialization amounts to a
> crime against humanity. I have no time to discuss this any further on
> Frameworks. I just want help in assembling a list of those movies so that I
> can consign them, and would-be makers of similar narratives, to imperialist
> hell. Thanks again...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> *From:* Jack Sargeant <email suppressed>
> *To:* email suppressed
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [FRAMEWORKS] individualism in films
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> I think perhaps some more thorough / in-depth details of what you need may
> help, but, in terms of what I think you want (all recent titles):
> Children of Men - one pregnant girl and an old lefty fight to save
> humanity from dystopic end
> V For Vendetta - one man starts a revolution against fascist government
> thanks to inspiring pranks, interestingly the revolutionaries all adopt his
> identity which may not help your thesis.
> Borat - in the film Borat makes his country 'modern' having learned from
> his trip to USA
> The Queen - Blair saves royal family and Britain
> The Departed - one man alone against organized crime
> Shortbus - one nightclub and one woman's search for an orgasm suggest that
> there is hope for the wider tragedies of modern world
> Marie Antoinette - one woman takes on the weight of two nations and
> parties then discovers responsibility at the end
> Manderlay - one woman takes on the weight of history and slavery
> Happy Feet - one penguin faces the ocean and international fishing
> industries to save fish for penguins, interestingly he teaches the other
> penguins the importance of collective action so this my not fit entirely,
> but for 99% of the film he is the loner.
>
> God knows what this list says about my recent viewing habits, I promise I
> also attend all the art house and avant garde screenings as well!
>
> am I the first person to write about Happy Feet and Borat on Frameworks?
>
> Jack
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> On 7 Feb 2007, at 06:01, gyoungblood wrote:
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> Frameworkers,
> I posted this request during the Christmas holiday and got only one
> response. So, thinking that was not the best time to ask, I'm doing it again
> now. I'm trying to assemble a list of feature films in which collective
> problems are presented and resolved on the personal, individual level. Of
> course that's 99.9% of all Hollywood films (Frank Capra,
> "Casablanca," "The Insider" are examples). I'm looking for recent titles,
> the more admired the better. Your input will be greatly appreciated, and
> will contribute to my documentary project on the role of industrial cinema
> in socialization and social control.
>
>
> Gene Youngblood
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