From: saul ostrow (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jan 14 2007 - 10:17:14 PST
In a situation like this saying one hates the government is like a
teenager they hate your parents. Yet government is not our parent, it
is not responsible for or to each individual's need, gov't in our
society is that thing we have hired to manage our corporation in the
name of its share holders - as share holders we have failed
collectively to provide the necessary guidelines - like most
corporations we have let the majority stockholders (those who have
been able to collect the proxies of others) to run things - we then
complain as Freya has about them when a divided is not paid
because the value of our stock or profits have fallen.
Consequently - I agree with Owen though with a slight revision - to
say we hate the gov't is to say we hate ourselves for putting our
trust in the idea that someone else is responsible for our well
being. Nothing comes from self-hatred other than accusation and
On Jan 14, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Freya wrote:
> --- owen <email suppressed> wrote:
>> Anger yes. Hate no. Terrible that Helen Hill was
>> senslesly murdered
>> and her family and community devastated. Terrible
>> that the government
>> is incompetent and insensitive.
>> Our government represents us. And I think we are
>> represented. If you hate the government , you hate
>> the people too. Hate.
> There is a difference between a representation of
> something and an actual thing as we should all be very
> aware as experimental filmmakers.
> I do not in any way believe that the average united
> states citizen cares nothing for other people.
> I do not believe that the united states government
> acurately represents the people of New Orleans in the
> action they took by ignoring them.
> I could go on but basically I don't believe that the
> US government accurately represents all american
> people even if it were felt that it represented a
> majority but like most governments it appears to
> represent a political elite at the top of its society.
> The united states government is different to it's
> people no matter how desperately it might like to
> declare otherwise.
>> Ironic, declarations of hate regarding people and
>> governments made in
>> Helen Hill's honor.
> The comment I made was not in Helen Hills honour. It
> could in no way be so as I have not met or been in
> contact with her. It reffered to my own personal
> feelings to do with the way that the united states
> government has acted in regard to the disaster in New
> People are going to have strong emotions in the
> matter. Both good and bad.
> ...and yes I would rather not feel the way I do it
> isn't good, but I will deal with it and carry on doing
> positive things.
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