Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco

From: Chuck Kleinhans <>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:03:45 -0700

On Aug 30, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

> Yes. Oakland and SF combined are less than half the size of Chicago and a fraction of LA. San Francisco has well under a million people in a city with very limited space of the type that normally fosters underground art scenes. So on that level its not really a fair comparison.
> And given that, you have to give major props to the people that do make it happen, and especially those organizations that kept it going through the first dotcom boom, which permanently changed the cultural landscape of this city, completely wiped out a huge number of arts organizations and destroyed much of the framework for any real underground to exist at all.
> Brook

This is just speculation on my part, but it's been widely reported that the suburbs are now increasingly the places where lower income folks can afford to live and not in the urban core: thus recent immigrants, people arriving from other regions of the US, the working class, and minorities of various kinds are entering the collar communities. The characteristic "mix" of art bohemia scenes might now be developing in the burbs? Can anyone report evidence of this in the US? Elsewhere?

Chuck Kleinhans

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