Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco

From: Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza <>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:14:13 +0000

I just want to say that I did have a great time in SF. I learned a lot, I met a lot of people doing their stuff. I don't really care if it is new and vibrant, they were exciting and excited doing their things; they all taught me a lot. As Chris says, there are a lot of resources. I know a lot of people who didn't take advantage, and a lot of them who did. Besides the school library (SFAI) I went to the Public Library and got as much as I could. I live in Monterrey, Mexico. It is a terrible town to live in, but all the stuff I brought back from SF has kept me burning and vibrant, I guess. And about being stuck on structuralism, I didn't get that idea. I really wish I could have seen more of that in SF. I personally got a lot into it and I think in a way a reason why filmmaking might have gotten stagnant might be because structuralism is kind of forgotten. Although it might not be as effective with digital technology, but that's another issue.


Jorge Lorenzo

> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:15:23 -0400
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> My guess is Aaron has never lived anywhere else. Compared to most cities, SF
> has a pretty great amount of resources.
> That said, Carl, you're going to have to make it happen. Don't expect
> anything to be handed to you (especially if you're in anyway associated to
> SFAI), you've got to take charge and find things and do things. And when you
> do, you'll find that there's both a decent community (yes, maybe not
> "vibrant" anymore, but great in many ways) and one that is receptive to new
> things when someone does do something new. SF is known for having a ton of
> people who pass through for a few years and light the fire a bit AND people
> who hole away in their neighborhoods after having been part of the fire for
> a period of time (when you see their neighborhoods, you'll understand why).
> But when they're active, its a lot of fun. Your turn.
> Read "Radical Light", too. It's a pretty good. and yes, stay away from the
> burners...
> C
> On 8/30/11 1:57 AM, ""
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> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:44:08
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> From: "Aaron F. Ross" <>
> Subject: Re:
> > [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
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> The avant-garde film scene in
> > this town has
> really degenerated in the last ten years. I took
> a break for a
> > while to work on other things, and
> when I came back I found that the scene I
> > knew
> and loved had fallen on hard times.
> I can't recommend San Francisco as
> > a place to
> find new and exciting avant-garde motion picture
> events. The
> > venues Steve mentioned seem to be
> stuck in the 60's. I have nothing against
> >
> structuralism, etc. per se, but frankly I see a
> lack of imagination and an
> > inability to embrace
> new methods. This is an ill omen.
> Don't come here
> > expecting a vibrant community.
> It's stodgy, eccentric, self-absorbed,
> > insular,
> and profoundly unimaginative. The old guard have
> no mojo left in
> > them, and the young people are
> too busy fluffing their Burning Man costumes
> > to do anything revolutionary.
> Aaron
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