Re: [Frameworks] B&W innerneg

From: andrew lennox (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Nov 16 2010 - 22:30:48 PST

hi lyra,

super 8 plus x -> 7366 (this is a master positive)
7366->7234 or 3234
3/7234 -> 3302

talk to sebastjan @ niagara custom lab. he's got the master pos and interneg.
 he will run tests for you and you can use what is specific to your job rather
than a full 1000' can (im not sure the length of the project). this is the best
way to keep down contrast and grain. ive used plus x as an interneg before and
seen double-x on other people's work. it depends if you want that look but it
sounds like you want as close a reproduction as possible. master pos/interneg
is the traditional way. for sure i would recommend against making your release
prints on 3383 from the master bw interneg. also, plus-x neg is discontinued so
it's either interneg or double-x, unless you have/find plus-x. anyway, good
luck, i really suggest talking to sebastjan though if you have the money. he
will give you the best price you can find. he's great about doing tests and
working with you.

From: Lyra Hill <email suppressed>
To: Frameworks <email suppressed>
Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 4:29:21 PM
Subject: [Frameworks] B&W innerneg

Hi everybody,

I have a pretty simple question about the value of B&W innerneg (I'm thinking
specifically about Kodak 3234, because you can buy 1000ft of it) as opposed to
B&W negative stock in regards to tone-rendering capacity. I am in a situation in
which it is necessary for me to make several intermediate steps in arriving at
my goal, and I would like the finished film strip to be as rich as my current
negative. Here's what I'm doing:

I have some Super8 Plus-X that I have developed as negative. I plan on printing
that on a JK, editing my footage in this process. I then will have to make an
intermediate negative of this positive print, in order to have a master negative
from which to pull multiple married prints.

As stated before, it is important to me to retain as much tonality as possible
through these steps. I would also prefer to stick to B&W stock; while I may end
up printing to 3383 for the married prints, I'm not keen on color testing for
each step in order to maintain desaturation.

I worked it out and the 3234 innerneg that Kodak offers is about the same price
as Double-X. Purchasing a small amount of Double-X is more manageable right now
than figuring out how to convince my friends to go in on 1000 ft of innerneg. If
I use Double-X as an intermediate negative, will I maintain the same richness? I
also have 800ft of negative Plus-X that I've been hoarding. When it comes to
Double-X vs. Plus-X, which stock would be better for this use?

Thank you,
Lyra Hill

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