Re: [Frameworks] UbuWeb...HACKED!

From: Beth Capper (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Oct 14 2010 - 18:02:59 PDT


OK.. do you even realize how difficult that is for some images as a found
footage maker? Like, let's take Mickey Mouse, who will never be in the
public domain because Disney ARE INSANE, and are the reason why the length
of time before a work of art goes into the public domain is so high - like
the artists life plus 90 years or something like that. I'm sure the rights
to that are like, I dunno, a trillion dollars.. If you enforce the rights
for everything you have high school kids plays getting shut down because
they didn't obtain the rights (this happened recently to my boyfriend's
little brother), or people getting busted for singing happy birthday. If you
enforce the rights for everything, the only people who would be able to
remix something and make an infinitely more creative product at the end of
it would be rich people. And who wants their avant-garde art made by rich
people?

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Matt Helme <email suppressed> wrote:

> Not if you obtain the rights.
> Matt
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] UbuWeb...HACKED!
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> Although not exactly analogous this may be of relevance re UbuWeb (the gist
> of the piece is in the name of the link)
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/21/study-finds-pirates-buy-more-music
>
> UbuWeb is a gateway, it enables people to view things, most who like things
> will go on and attend screenings if they are able, people are aware that
> viewing on a computer is different from attending an event.
>
> As a film festival program director and somebody who has long toured and
> screened films I have noticed no decrease in audiences as a result of
> availability on DVD or online. At least one of the films I programmed for
> Sydney Biennale was on UbuWeb but this didn't effect audience attendance.
>
> If you actually look at UbuWeb it even lists distributors and their
> websites.
>
> Copyright is certainly an issue, but looking at creative commons may be
> better than looking at outdated copyright ideas, especially if embracing
> creative commons enables an artist's work to be more readily seen.
>
> BTW Matt: if we were really serious about ownership surely that what
> prohibit all of those filmmakers who use 'found footage' and 'found'
> soundtracks?
>
> Jack
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