Re: [Frameworks] First time experiment, need words from the wise

From: Jodie Mack (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Sep 21 2010 - 15:17:47 PDT



Doc Marten dyes produce vivid, saturated colors, and so do
the inks from the felt/plastic cylinders inside permanent markers. (Rip markers
open with your teeth and then squeeze away.)


With the right copier, you can Xerox film through the side
feeder. Use 11x17 paper, cut strips of film, tape them down, and side feed
away. The copier will jam at times, but it is really fun. Clear leader will
also take ink from a laser printer. (Inkjet will smear and wash away, which, of
course, is a worthwhile thing).


Another option: tape/ink transfer. Apply tape to printed
paper (again, no inkjet). Submerge the paper in water. Wait a few minutes.
Separate the pieces of tape. Rub off the paper pulp with your fingers (you
might have to submerge it a few more times to get it nice and clean). Apply the
wet tape to film, and leave it to dry. (1/2 inch tape fits 16mm perfectly
without covering the left sprockets!). This process makes for thick film. But,
as long as you lay it flat to dry, it works pretty well.


Send all of your stuff to Seb at Niagara Custom Lab. He’ll
strike you an interneg from which you can make the rest of your positive
prints. He’s completely handmade-friendly and will touch things no other lab
will. His prices are also righteously reasonable!


Also, if you haven’t already, it seems like
you’re ready to score a copy of “Recipes for Disaster—a Handcrafted Film
Cookbooklet,” a valuable jewel of a document put out by the legendary Helen
Hill a few years back. This was online at some point, but now I can’t find it.
I have copies if you want.

NEW Hampshire

Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:37:50 -0700
From: email suppressed
To: email suppressed
Subject: [Frameworks] First time experiment, need words from the wise

Hi Frameworkers,
I've got some concerns/queries about a current project. For my first hand painted film, I'm using glass paint on clear estar 16mm and also I'm experimenting with flower petals, leaves, things of that nature. The particles I'm using are thin and light, so I haven't had any problems (yet) with bits chipping off or getting jammed in the projector. I want to use layers with great textures.

I wondered if anyone had any other recommendation for paint, or ink, or stains. The glass paint I'm using is doing an OK job, but it dries really thin, so I have to keep layering it. Obviously I don't want to layer it too much, but I want the colors to be bold, thick and loud. I'd like to refrain from using acrylic or oils.

Then I wondered also, much like painters can use gesso to transfer an image (newspapers/xerox copies), is there anything that can be done similarly? Entirely camera-less and without an optical printer?
Lastly my biggest concern is the workprint/telecine. Who will even do a workprint on such a risky film? Someone told me they "wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole." But these films are made often, right? So someone has to do it? Or is to assume this naive?

Any help on any of these questions would be sincerely appreciated...
Thank you.
Mallary Cut + Run Tour

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