Re: [Frameworks] experimental documentary (thank you)

From: Ken Bawcom (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Jul 20 2010 - 20:31:17 PDT


Slowly, almost all my favorite experimental docs/filmmakers were
mentioned, including those Rory lists, all but two:

Monteith McCollum - "Hybrid"

Marlon Fuentes "Bontoc Eulogy"

Ken B.

Quoting Rory Brosius <email suppressed>:

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> Christopher,
> Thank you for the kind response. I hope you are able to incorporate
> everything you hope to.
> Keep us updated!
> Cheers,
> Rory
> PS: If you are looking to incorporate some interesting portraits,
> docudrama, and "self-reflexive" films (as Marilyn had said)...
> Grey Gardens: Albert & David Maysles
> Sherman's March: Ross McElwee
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> War: Jake Mahaffy
> Chain: Jem Cohen
> and for fun...
> The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters: Seth Gordon
> From: email suppressed
> To: email suppressed
> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:34:54 +0000
> Subject: [Frameworks] experimental documentary (thank you)
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> Hello all,
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> Thanks to everyone
> for so many excellent and thought provoking recommendations. Some of them
> were already on my radar but many others had either slipped my mind or were
> completely unknown to me.
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> Thanks in
> particular to Amanda, Dan, Robert, Dinorah, Jeanne, Ken, Matt, Mike, Jason,
> Carl, Sonali, David, Ted, Elizabeth, Mads, Greg, James, Shane, Jeff, Beverly,
> Manuele, Rory and Rob (whew!).
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> Special thanks to
> Marilyn, Jason and Rory for prodding me to focus my thoughts a bit more as I
> begin to shape the syllabus for the course.
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> their comments a little context is probably in order:
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> The class I will be
> teaching this fall is called Film Documentary. Based on past experience
> with the student body I suspect that the vast majority of my students have an
> idea of documentary that does not go very far beyond Ken Burns and Michael
> Moore. Its within this context that I decided that I would teach an
> "experimental documentary" course in order to challenge these sorts
> of preconceptions. In any case when I posted my initial query to
> Frameworks I deliberately left the terminology undefined so as to
> cast as wide
> a net as possible in the hopes that I would get a range of responses
> (it seemed
> to have worked). I assumed correctly that many responses would point me in
> directions that I might not have anticipated. At the same time I included
> the names of certain film and video makers in order to provide some sense of
> what I meant by "experimental." The point was to provide some context
> without closing off potential avenues.
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> Marilyn wondered
> about the purpose of the course. One of the major areas of focus for this
> class will be, as Marilyn put it, on "self-reflexive documentaries that
> are honest, also, about their subjectivity.? Rather than a history
> of such films I intend to design the
> course as an introduction to these kinds of films (and videos) with
> no attempt
> to be exhaustive or definitive. In
> this spirit, the discussions around terminology (?experimental? and
> ?documentary?) will be integrated into the course with as little doctrinaire
> fanfare as possible.
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> Jason, I
> wholeheartedly agree that there are no clear boundaries between Narrative,
> Documentary and Experimental film.
> I intend to design the course in such way that the content and spirit of
> the course convey this lack of definitive boundaries.
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> Rory, Documentary
> Film is a theory course however I have recently begun to fold optional
> production assignments into my theory courses and I intend to do the
> same with
> my ?experimental? version of the this class. How exactly I will do
> this has yet to be determined. I am not sure how much experience with
> hands on processes. Certainly the
> discussion around terminology and processes will have to be placed within an
> historical context.
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> Again, thanks to
> all the very helpful feedback.
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> Best,
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> CH
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