Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Documentary

From: Matt Helme (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jul 18 2010 - 20:59:35 PDT

The main point being, people who are considered"Experimental" have tended to
make the same kind of film, but are still considered "Experimental".

From: Beverly O'Neill <email suppressed>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 9:17:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Documentary

Dear Matt Helme, Has he become conventional yet? While he defined the
Pittsburgh trilogy as documentaries I've always viewed the majority of his work
in that light, although not exclusively.
Several titles to suggest: MANUFACTURED LANDSCAPES by Jennifer Bainal who filmed
the still photographer Edwin Burtynsky as he traveled throughout industrial
China capturing contemporary industrial life in ways we've never experienced; MY
WINNIPEG, Guy Maddin's very successful autobiographic portrait of his childhood.

By way of ancedote, Pat O'Neill won 1st prize for a documentary in 1989 at
Sundance with a piece called WATER AND POWER. Peter Wollen served as a juror
that year and decided to challenge the festival's standards and definitions
about what constituted a documentary. Pat received 1 phone call after he
returned home with the award from an L.A. film critic wanting to review the
work. She tore the film to shreds. That prize never attracted anyone else's
attention to the piece, though it achieved a splendid viewing history in
another context.. He has the Sundance crystal with an etched citation as
evidence that it wasn't a hallucination.

Maybe the idea of documentaries flew out the window with the persistence of
 Beverly O'Neill

How many film's did Brakhage make? Was he considered conventional in 2000?
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