Re: [Frameworks] The code of

From: Lundgren (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Jul 05 2010 - 15:38:35 PDT


Do you happen to have a code to the flicker?

Björn Lundgren

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From: "Tony Conrad" <email suppressed>
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] The code of

> Hi---------
> My "The Flicker" has many of the characteristics mentioned in this
> discussion.
> Totally binary in its main content, it is in many respects indestructible.
> The
> sound and titles are analog, however. Kubelka's score is more pointilist
> than
> mine, which can be deciphered from published illustrations. You might
> refer to
> Branden Joseph's wonderful treatment in "Beyond the Dream Syndicate."
> -----------t0ny
> On Mon 07/05/10 2:31 AM , Evan Meaney email suppressed sent:
>> Hi Björn:
>> It's funny, I'm actually teaching a class about codes and sequences
>> in cinema in the fall, stateside - Kubelka's AR is an important part
>> of the syllabus. I haven't found a ton of work about the _specific_
>> code at work in AR but I was lucky enough to see him speak a few
>> years ago about it. He said that he was interested in having the
>> exact same amount of light and dark hit the screen over the duration
>> of the piece. The presence and absence of information equalizing one
>> another. Ditto for the sound, where the noise ( I forget it if it's
>> just white noise or something more particular at the moment)
>> contrasts directly with the silence.
>> I would love, love, love to see that rock and find out that exact
>> equation.If someone out there has it, do let us know.
>> All the best,
>> Evan
>> On Jul 4, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Lundgren wrote:
>> I remeber reading about Peter Kubelka saying something about that
>> Arnulf
>> Rainer was the only eternal film, that he would write down the
>> concept/code/script/equation/whatever on a rock and then when all
>> other
>> works of cinema had faded away (by technical death or whatever) his
>> could
>> allways be recreated perfectly in its intended form.
>> Anyway, what I was interested in was that form. Does anyone know if
>> he ever
>> spoke of the "code" or has anyone with access to a film copy been
>> able to
>> determine it?
>> A secondary question is also this: What is the technical form of the
>> "soundtrack"?
>> ______________
>> Björn Lundgren
>> Sweden
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