Re: Experiments in Cinema V5.1 still seeking submissions

From: Myron Ort (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Nov 25 2009 - 17:28:32 PST

I just started reading some snippets of this Drucker material which
is online. Off the Hook! wow, now I got something to justify my
being a slow reading dyslectic anyway. That's some slow readin'
stuff by anyone's standards.

looks like I should study this. or at least see if I can figure out
what it ALL means..... (...kind of like Jim Casy in The Grapes Of


On Nov 25, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Bernard Roddy wrote:

> Just make sure the films are real meditative like. If anyone
> complains, refer them to Johanna Drucker's book, Sweet Dreams:
> Contemporary Art and Complicity (U. of C., '05). You can say you
> advocate "complict formalism" and that artists "under sway of [any
> performance- or body-oriented post-minimalist theory] "cultivate a
> self-styled radical chic supposedly pure of crass motives like
> careerism or material gain" (xiv). If that doesn't seal it, add
> that "theory has rigidified into predictable categories of thought
> each identifiable by their characteristic vocabulary of the
> 'object,' the 'subversive,' the 'transgressive,' the 'resistant,'
> or other negative keyword." (xv) You can give Drucker's contact
> information in case there are doubts about the experiences of
> practicing artists. She seems to speak with authority:
> "Criticism's prescriptive effect paralyzes the inventive impulse of
> making and locks artists into an impoverished 'poststudio' position
> in which art making is conceived largely as conceptual or symbolic
> act. But this simply isn't true [use italics here and add "my
> emphasis"]. For all the crucial significance of conceptualism, art
> is never only an idea." (xv)
> Good luck!
> Bernie
> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Myron Ort <email suppressed> wrote:
>> From: Myron Ort <email suppressed>
>> Subject: Re: Experiments in Cinema V5.1 still seeking submissions
>> To: email suppressed
>> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:27 PM
>> I have two new films, one is 9
>> minutes and one is 16 minutes, but I am thinking they
>> are too long for film festivals. I feel self conscious
>> about demanding that much attention for abstract material in
>> this context. I need to start making 3-4 minute
>> films.
>> How patient are today's film festival audiences?
>> Myron Ort
>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Bryan Konefsky wrote:
>>> Hi all - our submission deadline is quickly
>> approaching - See below - our postmark deadline is December
>> 10-ish... let us know if you might need a few extra days for
>> submissions and with a hefty bribe (kidding) I'm sure we can
>> accomodate!
>>> all the best,
>>> bryan konefsky
>>> festival director
>>> Experiments in Cinema V5.1 (a Basement Films
>> production in collaboration with UNM’s Department of
>> Cinematic Arts) is currently seeking submissions for our 5th
>> annual celebration of international, cinematic
>> experimentation. This year’s festival will take place in
>> Albuquerque April 15-18, 2010. We encourage all moving
>> image artists creating unembedded, undependent, underground,
>> experimental, personal, and wildly imaginative media to
>> submit to our festival (postmark deadline for submissions is
>> December 10, 2009… though if materials are dated a day or
>> two later we will happily accept your work for
>> consideration!!). See and click in
>> Experiments in Cinema V5.1 for details.
>>> Contact festival director Bryan Konefsky at bryank
>> (at) for more information.
>> __________________________________________________________________
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>> __________________________________________________________________
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