From: Caryn Cline (email suppressed)
Date: Fri Oct 30 2009 - 05:54:37 PDT
Many thanks for your detailed posting about your experiences burying and
composting film. When you worked with a processed image, did you use the
negative or a work print? Has anyone buried or composted handmade frames?
"recycled" images? I want to put film in my barrel-style composter. Any
I, too, have enjoyed this thread. Thank you, Lisa, for getting it started
with your question.
New York and Seattle
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
email suppressed> wrote:
> hi lisa,
> i've done an extensive amount of experimentation with burying over the
> years--in soil and sand--as well as composting--berries, herbs, seaweed,
> etc. while i've primarily worked with a processed image, i've also used
> black (acetate) leader which has emulsion.
> apart from whatever differences camera stock vs processed film could offer
> you just in terms of their materiality, i suggest that you simply base your
> 'need' on whether or not you wish to manipulate apre-shot image or produce a
> purely abstract one.
> in regard to how long to bury the film, the degree of moisture and texture
> of the ground are most critical. regarding the latter, for example, if you
> bury it in sand vs soil, the latter may evidence a finer texture. experiment
> with small pieces first. and i generally found slightly damp conditions to
> be 'optimal' with a burying period of just 3 days.
> when you remove it, i suggest not pulling it out like a bird pulls a worm.
> the emulsion will be so soft, the image will squeegee right off. instead,
> dig around it, cup your hands and pull out the surrounding area. don't wash
> it, because everything will slide right off. let it dry in the sun or blow
> dry it--then wash it. in my experience, it won't wash off the second time
> it's dampened.
> lastly, it's easy to forget where one buries the film! i used to make a
> little marker from a short section of coat hanger and flag the top inch with
> white paper tape. be careful at the ocean! the tide will snatch your film!
> even if you bury it 3 feet down, 50 yards from the shoreline! oh--and don't
> leave flags where people might step on them.
> have fun...ken
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