From: BAENA DIAZ, FRANCISCO (email suppressed)
Date: Fri Oct 23 2009 - 11:03:19 PDT
Dear Adam,
don't worry! my line of argument is absolutely different, because, in fact, i think like you.
i can't explain you now our thesis -it would be so complex to this messages.
anyway, i will notify the results of our research when this finish -but i inform you is in spanish...
cheers,
FB
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De: Experimental Film Discussion List en nombre de Adam Hyman
Enviado el: vie 23/10/2009 19:39
Para: email suppressed
Asunto: Re: how dominant cinema perform other cinemas
I think the limitation to "cinema in museums" is deeply problematic. Why do
you want to do that? It makes it sound like that its presence in a museum
is needed to validate it as art, which is not only wrong, but also a
troubling self-perpetuation of the separation of media art presented in
galleries & museums versus that presented in theatrical settings.
An ongoing issue here in Los Angeles (and globally)...
Best regards,
Adam
On 10/23/09 2:29 AM, "BAENA DIAZ, FRANCISCO" <email suppressed> wrote:
> Hi, Fred.
> Thanks a lot.
> The first one is a good example of i need it... but for previous chapter, i
> mean: for the foundation of clasical topology. In fact, we -because it's a
> collective work- analyse it.
> The second don't. But i'll see it.
> Any way what i would is something like this, but on "exposed cinema", that is,
> on cinema in museums (real examples: D'Est, by Chantal Akerman in Jeu de
> Paume; Voyage(s) en Utopie, by JL Godard in Pompidou; L'Île et Elle, by Agnès
> Varda in Cartier Foundation; Correspondencias, by Erice / Kiarostami in CCCB;
> works by Douglas Gordon, etc.) Naturally, it would be any invented
> installation, inside the movie.
> Why dominant cinema? Well... they are the rules of the game.
> Cheers,
> FB
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> De: Experimental Film Discussion List en nombre de Fred Camper
> Enviado el: vie 23/10/2009 4:37
> Para: email suppressed
> Asunto: Re: how dominant cinema perform other cinemas
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> Quoting "BAENA DIAZ, FRANCISCO" <email suppressed>:
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>> So, what i need is a scene -a sequence- where any movie -from
>> dominant cinema- perform the "exposed cinema".
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> An early example would be Buster Keaton's "Sherlock Jr." One later
> one, Peter Bogdanovich's "Target," which involves a drive-in movie.
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> But I also have a question for you. Why must the film you study be
> from "dominant cinema"?
>
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
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