From: Jerry Tartaglia (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Aug 06 2009 - 08:31:32 PDT
I regret to inform you that the eggs which you had anticipated would hatch
into a utopian world, replete with tolerance and congenial outcomes, have
been smashed. Unfortunately, they have been used to create a world-omelette
of moving image media that are under the direct control of several chefs who
have no interest in healthy food preparation nor concern for other peoples'
Though I would favor the word "adversary" over the word "enemy," I do not
believe that the "mind-only school" of philosophy offers any practical
remedy for the suffering that is inflicted on the world by the Barbarians
among us. If I am wrong, then, please show me the chickens!!
"To hear with eyes belongs to love's fine wit."(Sonnet 23)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lundgren" <email suppressed>
To: <email suppressed>
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Murdoch's Falsehoods [Was: Kuchar/McDowell screen on Fox News!]
> You need to learn to turn the other check. ;)
> Fox isn't really a problem. If everyone reacted the way I guess most
> Frameworkers do to that clip (okay I laughed - I don't care anymore, it's
> just fun) then there'd be no problem and there'd be no Fox.
> You see, I really think the eggS came first.
> Bjorn Lundgren
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Conrad" <email suppressed>
> To: <email suppressed>
> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Murdoch's Falsehoods [Was: Kuchar/McDowell screen on Fox
>> Wake up!
>> I agree with Gregg Biermann. Fox is the ENEMY; the ENEMY; the ENEMY.
>> Not that your slushy liberalism is going to have any effect (except
>> stiffening the spines of some of us who see things more clearly), but
>> your remarks certainly represent the final disintegration of
>> "experimental" into complete meaninglessness. "Art" as well, it
>> On Wed 08/05/09 1:47 PM , Lundgren email suppressed sent:
>>> I think the clip is an experimental film in it's own sense.
>>> We should always have a wide definition of art, and we should try to
>>> interprete any work of art as a good work of art.
>>> Therefore I see no other thing to do than to consider this a really
>>> experimental satire.
>>> BjÃ¶rn Lundgren
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Scott Stark" BEAM.NET>To: email suppressed>Sent:
>>> Monday, August 03, 2009 9:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Murdoch's Falsehoods [Was: Kuchar/McDowell screen on Fox
>>> > At 06:19 PM 8/2/2009 -0700, Chuck Kleinhans
>>> >>They also seem to not grasp the fact that the
>>> film was made in 1975 and is >>not being funded by the NEA.
>>> > Actually I think they were very carefully
>>> creating this confusion. If you > listen closely they do state that the
>>> went to the "theater" that > was planning to show the film, not the film
>>> itself, but that goes by very > quickly and they made sure to blur that
>>> distinction with the "shocking" > imagery and voice-over details.
>>> > I think the Fox team is actually very smart and
>>> crafty, and has a lot of > fun making stuff up.
>>> > Scott
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>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.