Re: collage film history—cornell

From: Marcos Ortega (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Jul 01 2009 - 02:21:40 PDT


   Check Brian Frye's article. He doesn't mention explcitly the
inclusion of footage from a scientific film, but the major points are
there.

   http://archive.sensesofcinema.com/contents/cteq/01/17/hobart.html

   Best,

   Marcos Quoting Myron Ort <email suppressed>:

> Good, I would like to know more about all that myself.
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> On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Steve Polta wrote:
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>> Someone more knowledgable than I can (and hopefully will) clarify 
>> the process by which Cornell assembled ROSE HOBART but there is 
>> much more to this than a simple deletion of the non-Rose scenes 
>> from EAST OF BORNEO. There is definitely a reassembly of material, 
>> not to mention the addition of sound and———get this———the
>> inclusion  of material **NOT FOUND** in the original film. For
>> example, I  believe the shot in ROSE of the white cap thing
>> floating in water  is from some science film.
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>> But hopefully someone (Ms. Liotta??) can clarify this for us all.
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>> Steve Polta
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>>> My understanding of  "Rose Hobart" is that it was a
>>> found film with all the shots without Rose removed.
>>> The resulting "form" being the chance operation resulting
>>> from this simple conceptual device. Understanding this then
>>> leads me to a useful tool perhaps for another similar film.
>>> Simply calling it a collage doesn't get me to the core of
>>> this understanding, but I do see why people generally want
>>> to have these sweeping categories for general conversation,
>>> however misleading.
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   Best regards,

Marcos Ortega
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