From: Gene Youngblood (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Jun 29 2009 - 13:15:01 PDT
I forgot to add that Myron makes a good point about the Brakhage films,
since, strictly speaking, the physical linnearity of film prevents it from
qualifying as collage unless the collaging occurs within frames and not
between them. So I guess the vast body of collage-style, cut-and-paste
animation, and of superimposition, are the histories we're talking about.
Dog Star Man is an outstanding example of both. Of course numerous
experimental filmmakers have taken scissors to the filmstrip in various
ways. I'm drawing a blank at the moment except for Garine Torossian. Her
"Visions" (1992, 4 min.) is a tour-de-force of that technique (8mm sliced
and pasted onto 16mm), and it's a powerhouse of emotional catharsis.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Youngblood" <email suppressed>
To: <email suppressed>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: collage film history
> Ballet Mechanique, Emak Bakia and Le Retour a la Raison would be among the
> earliest collage films, if the term is understood as the moving image
> equivalent of work in other media by Picabia, Picasso, Hans Arp, Raoul
> Hausmann and Kurt Schwitters.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Myron Ort" <email suppressed>
> To: <email suppressed>
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: collage film history
>> montage, collage, .... this gets confusing.
>> putting movie shots together, whatever the source (found footage, stock
>> footage, newly shot footage, or otherwise), is generally called
>> montage or "editing", is it not?
>> "Collage Animation" to me suggests art collage inspired films like
>> those of Joseph Cornell, Harry Smith, Robert Breer, Larry Jordan, and
>> perhaps other even earlier examples.
>> "Collage" in film would be to me something like the circular punched
>> out baby image fastened into a circular hole on another image exampled
>> in Brakhage's "Dog Star Man", or for that matter the work done to make
>> his "Mothlight" and "Garden of Earthly Delights".
>> To me the term "collage film form" might be problematic.
>> Myron Ort
>> On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:51 AM, William Kaizen wrote:
>>> Can anybody point me to any good academic references or other solid
>>> references on the history of collage film? I am especially interested
>>> in when, historically, the term collage first became associated with
>>> cinema rather than works on paper or canvas, and in the
>>> differentiation historically between cinematic montage and the use of
>>> cinematic collage, including the appropriation of found footage. Was
>>> the term in use in the late 1950s and early 1960s when filmmakers like
>>> Robert Breer and others began experimenting with the collage film
>>> form, or was it applied by later artists and/or scholars?
>>> Thanks for any thoughts or ideas!
>>> --- Bill
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