Re: another quirky question....

From: Myron Ort (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Jun 18 2009 - 09:37:27 PDT

I am currently thinking that a straight forward approach would be to
paint the original on full frame and take it to optical (to make
inter neg) at which point the aspect ratio and the speed (eg. print
every frame twice etc.) could be determined. The aesthetics of the
whole approach would be such that the unavoidable minor cropping
(varying according to which format or aspect ration is finally
decided upon) would come under the fortuitous chance operational
speculative and simply be yet another aspect left to "nature" as it
were, not unlike the yielding of absolute control of cracking
patterns emerging from india ink etc. After all, this is abstract
expressionism, not just little dancing scratched cute gewgaws with a
message in front of a horizon line where cropping might be noticeable
and undesirable.

given this, the above approach, the question might be what would the
best format be, maybe 1:85.

This is why I was curious about the Sastiaga film.


On Jun 18, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Freya wrote:

>> Another way of asking this: If you were going to
>> attempt to make a hand-painted 35mm film to be shown in
>> cinemascope, how would you go about it?
> Thats tricky! My immediate thought might be to build some
> anamorphic goggles and to be sure not to stray into the soundtrack
> area. :)
> More realistically you could pick up a cheap 2x anamorphic
> projector lens and try and see what you are doing through that
> while masking off the soundtrack area. Like those ancient paintings
> with hidden features! :)
> 1.85 would be the easiest as you would just have to mask off a
> certain area of your original and paint within that area.
> Lastly if you restrict yourself to art house cinemas that screen
> older films you could possibly work in academy. Again you would
> need to work in a smaller area away from the soundtrack and a
> little bit off the top and bottom. You could look into this as a
> possibility for the footage you already worked on too, to what
> extent will losing the soundtrack area and a bit top and bottom of
> frame affect your film? You could make a cardboard mask and see if
> this slight cropping would be an issue. You'd need to check with
> the cinema if they can screen academy of course, but a lot of
> places that screen old classic films probably still can I'm
> guessing. Yes you would be more limited in cinemas but is it really
> that restricting for a weird hand painted film anyway? ;)
> Optically printed pillarboxed prints are usually made to fit into
> 185 and not scope.
> love
> Freya
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