Re: 35mm projection options

From: Clive Holden (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Jun 16 2009 - 08:28:02 PDT


With much of my own work I've opted to set it into a 1.85:1 aspect
ratio, whatever the original source material, and this seems to have
worked out well. This has usually been pillar boxed Super 8 and 16mm
but has also been diptych twin images that are set into one frame,
and I've tried to label film cans accordingly. I've always hoped that
this would make life easier for projectionists (which is in my own
best interest, so the work's seen properly).

Now, I'm also showing from Blu-ray Disc when that's allowed (still
rarely, to my surprise), and my own impression SO FAR has been that
this form of delivery reduces aspect ratio problems -- assuming that
the projector/TV/monitor is 'HD capable' in the first place, if it
has HDMI input I THINK the aspect ratios are read and accommodated
for by the hardware. I believe this is part of the HD standard. But
then, I also tend to set everything into a 16 x 9 frame just in case,
pillar or letter boxed as necessary, so it's the same strategy as
with film.

Q: have you have any experience with projecting from Blu-ray Disc,
and has it made any difference at all in the projection booth?


On 16-Jun-09, at 10:29 AM, mat fleming wrote:

I still feel for an artist film 1.33 / 1.37 35mm (however you want to
call it) is the way to go if you can afford it.
As a projectionist I am more likely to get video aspect wrong than
film. because there are way more variables - the tape/disk/file
format, how the player ouputs it (sometimes different depending on
what kind of cable the machine's using), what the projector does with
it, the machines crop differently to variable "TV safe" areas too.
Plus if i have a stack of shorts it can be difficult to change in
between peices where the clumsy zoom has to operated by eye with the
clumsy remote etc. These factors sometimes force me into an reluctant
I haven't even gone into colour/contrast etc issues.
With enough notice I will do everything I can for a film. And there
is no uncertainty for me about whether i've got it right or wrong.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Freya <email suppressed> wrote:
The only formats you can assume will be supported in cinemas are
scope and 1.185. Some more art house cinemas might be able to do
Academy standard too but it is much more rare. Theres a move at the
moment to replace 1:1.185 with 16:9 like modern tvs but it remains to
be seen what will happen.

> Digital projection may help BUT you may have
> problems getting a full frame scan. (I deal with this a lot
> as I make archival film scanners and scan lots of full
> aperture films, even preserving edge markings.)

It shouldn't be a big problem as it is basically Super35 in 4perf.
Theres lots of telecine out there to do this (and I would assume full
scans too). You just need to find places that can handle S35. They
may not be keen on putting your painted film near their expensive
equipment tho!

The other option might be to get it optically printed to a
pillarboxed 1.185 print but this would be VERY expensive.



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